Comments on: Angel Pagan Is The Mets Best Slugger Not Named Beltran http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran Fri, 25 May 2012 14:34:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: mauimetfan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html#comment-28927 mauimetfan Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:47:10 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13314#comment-28927 Because I would do so much worse, idiot. Because I would do so much worse, idiot.

]]> By: Aye http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html#comment-28906 Aye Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:34:59 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13314#comment-28906 Wow...Trade beltran for pagan?? Thank life, you do NOT work for mets management. Wow…Trade beltran for pagan?? Thank life, you do NOT work for mets management.

]]> By: Tania http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html#comment-28899 Tania Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:35:29 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13314#comment-28899 Hello, Ugh, I liked! So clear and positively. Tania Hello,
Ugh, I liked! So clear and positively.
Tania

]]> By: Chris http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html#comment-28861 Chris Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:42:14 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13314#comment-28861 That's fine, but why put your best OBP guy in the 5-hole? I think Amazin' Avenue had a figure earlier this season; it costs Wright about 50 PAs than if he batted third. That’s fine, but why put your best OBP guy in the 5-hole? I think Amazin’ Avenue had a figure earlier this season; it costs Wright about 50 PAs than if he batted third.

]]> By: Chris http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html#comment-28860 Chris Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:39:24 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13314#comment-28860 Why would you bring in a guy to play out of position (yes, I know Figgins can do it, but he's not a strong defensive outfielder. He is a good defensive 3B), for the worst defensive team in baseball? The Mets need more upgrades than that in the lineup if they want to contend. Why would you bring in a guy to play out of position (yes, I know Figgins can do it, but he’s not a strong defensive outfielder. He is a good defensive 3B), for the worst defensive team in baseball? The Mets need more upgrades than that in the lineup if they want to contend.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html#comment-28853 theonlymaskman Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:28:50 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13314#comment-28853 This was meant to be a reply to Steve regarding Figgins and Barajas. Pressed the wrong button. This was meant to be a reply to Steve regarding Figgins and Barajas. Pressed the wrong button.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html#comment-28852 theonlymaskman Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:27:46 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13314#comment-28852 Good choices. I like both of them. You have Reyes hitting 3rd and that could be appropriate if his best running days are behind him. Even if he is a routine runner, his arm still makes him a great shortstop. One of the important to think to learn early next year will be the status of Reyes and what talents he will bring to the team. Hopefully his rehab is over by the time ST rolls around. Good choices. I like both of them. You have Reyes hitting 3rd and that could be appropriate if his best running days are behind him. Even if he is a routine runner, his arm still makes him a great shortstop. One of the important to think to learn early next year will be the status of Reyes and what talents he will bring to the team. Hopefully his rehab is over by the time ST rolls around.

]]> By: steve http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html#comment-28850 steve Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:03:08 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13314#comment-28850 I hope they sign Figgins to play left,and Barajas to catch. Figgins LF Castillo 2B Reyes SS Beltran CF Wright 3B Francoer RF Murphy 1B Barajas C bench Evans-Pagan-Santos-AHern I hope they sign Figgins to play left,and Barajas to catch.
Figgins LF
Castillo 2B
Reyes SS
Beltran CF
Wright 3B
Francoer RF
Murphy 1B
Barajas C
bench Evans-Pagan-Santos-AHern

]]> By: mauimetfan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html#comment-28838 mauimetfan Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:39:56 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13314#comment-28838 Beltran is a stud. Consummate professional, sure, He has a world of talent, I acknowledge that. Thats why I think you could get a lot for him. To call Pagan a hack is to completely ignore the fact that he has hit consistently all year since being put in to a line up resembling that of the B Mets. Beltran is in no way the heart of the Mets. He shys away from the spotlight not that there is anything terribly wrong with that. That is just his style. That style is what I think the Mets have to much of. Beltran may be the best player on the Mets, but no way you are going to tell me he is the heart of the Mets. Beltran is dead inside my friend. Beltran is a stud. Consummate professional, sure, He has a world of talent, I acknowledge that. Thats why I think you could get a lot for him. To call Pagan a hack is to completely ignore the fact that he has hit consistently all year since being put in to a line up resembling that of the B Mets. Beltran is in no way the heart of the Mets. He shys away from the spotlight not that there is anything terribly wrong with that. That is just his style. That style is what I think the Mets have to much of. Beltran may be the best player on the Mets, but no way you are going to tell me he is the heart of the Mets. Beltran is dead inside my friend.

]]> By: Greg From Brooklyn http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html#comment-28836 Greg From Brooklyn Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:45:35 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13314#comment-28836 I have never seen Jose Reyes commit the idiotic base running mistakes that Pagan has. I don't even see how you can compare the two at all. Pagan is not even close to being in Jose's league. Man, you can't even compare Jose's baseball "IQ" to that of Pagan's. Seems like you just don't like Reyes and just want to keep the "Run Jose Out Of Town" bandwagon running. Like the rest of those dumb asses. I have never seen Jose Reyes commit the idiotic base running mistakes that Pagan has.

I don’t even see how you can compare the two at all. Pagan is not even close to being in Jose’s league.

Man, you can’t even compare Jose’s baseball “IQ” to that of Pagan’s.

Seems like you just don’t like Reyes and just want to keep the “Run Jose Out Of Town” bandwagon running. Like the rest of those dumb asses.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html#comment-28833 theonlymaskman Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:12:46 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13314#comment-28833 You're talking about giving up on the consummate professional and turining it over to a hack. Beltran is the heart of the Mets. Just because he is quiet in his professional way does not mean he isn't dedicated or that he doesn't command the respect of his teammates. He has been seen several times guiding Reyes in approaching the game. Just because YOU don't see his influence, doesn't mean it's not there. Your idea is terrible. You’re talking about giving up on the consummate professional and turining it over to a hack. Beltran is the heart of the Mets. Just because he is quiet in his professional way does not mean he isn’t dedicated or that he doesn’t command the respect of his teammates. He has been seen several times guiding Reyes in approaching the game. Just because YOU don’t see his influence, doesn’t mean it’s not there. Your idea is terrible.

]]> By: mauimetfan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html#comment-28831 mauimetfan Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:34:20 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13314#comment-28831 You know just cause you say "trading Beltran to make room for Pagan is a terrible idea", doesn't make it a terrible idea. Tell me why based on what we have seen out of Pagan this year. Pagan can hit, he covers a lot of ground, and he can fly. Granted he needs to cut down on the mistakes and hit a few more cut off men but he has shown a lot this year with no one else in the line up around him. Beltran is great, and Pagan has years to go to approach his status and probably never will. Beltran isn't getting any better then he is now and I think we should trade him soon to get the most value from him. Maybe Fielder would not be a great fit. A pitcher would probably be a better idea. I just think we should give Pagan a chance based on what we have seen. The Mets never seem to do that. Also I think the Mets dugout could use a good thrashing from somebody breaking down every once in a while. You know just cause you say “trading Beltran to make room for Pagan is a terrible idea”, doesn’t make it a terrible idea. Tell me why based on what we have seen out of Pagan this year. Pagan can hit, he covers a lot of ground, and he can fly. Granted he needs to cut down on the mistakes and hit a few more cut off men but he has shown a lot this year with no one else in the line up around him. Beltran is great, and Pagan has years to go to approach his status and probably never will. Beltran isn’t getting any better then he is now and I think we should trade him soon to get the most value from him. Maybe Fielder would not be a great fit. A pitcher would probably be a better idea. I just think we should give Pagan a chance based on what we have seen. The Mets never seem to do that. Also I think the Mets dugout could use a good thrashing from somebody breaking down every once in a while.

]]> By: Joe D http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html#comment-28830 Joe D Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:17:21 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13314#comment-28830 Are you kidding me? Trading Beltran to make room for Pagan is a terrible idea. And Prince Fielder is a couple of Big Macs short of a breakdown in performance. And that still leaves us without a leftfielder, or were you planning on putting Prince there? Just because his name is Fielder it doesn't mean that he can actually field. Are you kidding me? Trading Beltran to make room for Pagan is a terrible idea. And Prince Fielder is a couple of Big Macs short of a breakdown in performance. And that still leaves us without a leftfielder, or were you planning on putting Prince there? Just because his name is Fielder it doesn’t mean that he can actually field.

]]> By: mauimetfan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html#comment-28829 mauimetfan Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:08:42 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13314#comment-28829 I'm sold on Pagan. Trade Beltran for Fielder and give CF to Pagan. Beltran is an incredible talent and one of the best in the game, but his blase fare attitude I think hurts the mets. He's got no heart! At least he doesn't show it. Some may think thats overrated, but I think it has hurt the mets especially down the stretch. I also think Manuel should get some of the blame for Pagan's mental and base running blunders. Which would probably decrease givin more playing time. Pagan is not exactly a kid anymore but give him a chance I think he will just get better. I’m sold on Pagan. Trade Beltran for Fielder and give CF to Pagan. Beltran is an incredible talent and one of the best in the game, but his blase fare attitude I think hurts the mets. He’s got no heart! At least he doesn’t show it. Some may think thats overrated, but I think it has hurt the mets especially down the stretch. I also think Manuel should get some of the blame for Pagan’s mental and base running blunders. Which would probably decrease givin more playing time. Pagan is not exactly a kid anymore but give him a chance I think he will just get better.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html#comment-28823 theonlymaskman Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:18:11 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13314#comment-28823 Jerry Manuel is all hot air. He runs a sloppy ship and that's the way it is and the way it always will be if he's in charge. If this team is to practice good fundamentals, a new field manager is required. But the Coupons are not going to hire a new one until Manuel's contract is finished. As far as Pagan goes, he is a 4th OF'er only. We need a genuine slugger for LF, but since the Coupons are not spending $ from the remaining nest egg, we will get to enjoy his clueless play on the bases and in the field for the indefinite future. Jerry Manuel is all hot air. He runs a sloppy ship and that’s the way it is and the way it always will be if he’s in charge. If this team is to practice good fundamentals, a new field manager is required. But the Coupons are not going to hire a new one until Manuel’s contract is finished.

As far as Pagan goes, he is a 4th OF’er only. We need a genuine slugger for LF, but since the Coupons are not spending $ from the remaining nest egg, we will get to enjoy his clueless play on the bases and in the field for the indefinite future.

]]> By: Luis Venitucci http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html#comment-28818 Luis Venitucci Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:28:35 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13314#comment-28818 I need an edit option...WHY does this team only REACT to last year’s issues and NOT be PROACTIVE..Maybe they manage like I type... I need an edit option…WHY does this team only REACT to last year’s issues and NOT be PROACTIVE..Maybe they manage like I type…

]]> By: Luis Venitucci http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html#comment-28817 Luis Venitucci Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:27:06 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13314#comment-28817 If fundamentals are to be apriority NEXT spring, WTF were they doing tis year? WHY does this team only REACT to last year's issues and be PROACTIVE. OMAR MUST GO!! And if Manuel did not address fundies this past spring, then he should go as well. If fundamentals are to be apriority NEXT spring, WTF were they doing tis year? WHY does this team only REACT to last year’s issues and be PROACTIVE. OMAR MUST GO!! And if Manuel did not address fundies this past spring, then he should go as well.

]]> By: kevin http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html#comment-28813 kevin Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:40:40 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13314#comment-28813 My mistake, I read Tatis's OPS instead of Pagan. My mistake, I read Tatis’s OPS instead of Pagan.

]]> By: BTF http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html#comment-28812 BTF Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:36:19 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13314#comment-28812 I've enjoyed reading the discussion on this site lately. As for Pagan, martin is right. I understand the point you are trying to make Joe, but the Mets cannot afford to take playing time from one of their best offensive players. The bottom line is that he helps more than he hurts the team, and he has shown good production for more than half a season. I wish he would walk more, but it's not so bad that it takes away from his overall offensive profile. If the Mets can get a .300/.350/.475 season from Pagan for less than a million bucks, they would be insane not to do it and use the savings to sign two solid starting pitchers. Keep up the good work on the site. I’ve enjoyed reading the discussion on this site lately. As for Pagan, martin is right. I understand the point you are trying to make Joe, but the Mets cannot afford to take playing time from one of their best offensive players. The bottom line is that he helps more than he hurts the team, and he has shown good production for more than half a season. I wish he would walk more, but it’s not so bad that it takes away from his overall offensive profile. If the Mets can get a .300/.350/.475 season from Pagan for less than a million bucks, they would be insane not to do it and use the savings to sign two solid starting pitchers. Keep up the good work on the site.

]]> By: martin http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/09/angel-pagan-is-the-mets-best-slugger-not-named-beltran.html#comment-28810 martin Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:30:46 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=13314#comment-28810 pagans 2009 ops is .820, which is not bad. i am not sure what your point is. if you are saying they need better players than that, i agree. pagan is just an ok player. far better than francouer though. pagans 2009 ops is .820, which is not bad. i am not sure what your point is.

if you are saying they need better players than that, i agree. pagan is just an ok player. far better than francouer though.

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