Comments on: What Should The Mets Do With Billy Wagner? http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-should-the-mets-do-with-billy-wagner.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=what-should-the-mets-do-with-billy-wagner Fri, 25 May 2012 14:18:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-should-the-mets-do-with-billy-wagner.html#comment-25454 METS62FAN Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:52:33 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10525#comment-25454 U LIKELY LOVED THE CLASSLESS DISGUISE SITUATION, TOO! BOBBY V. IS "THE WORLD'S BIGGEST BASEBALL EXPERT" IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT JUST ASK HIM! I DON'T GET IT. WHAT HAS HE EVER WON IN MLB? I UNDERSTAND WHY THE PRESS LOVES HIM; BUT THE FANS? I DON'T UNDERSTAND UNLESS YOU WERE IN DIAPERS IN 2000 & HEARD ROMANTICIZIED STORIES? WITHOUT OLERUD @ 1B THAT INFIELD IS AVG AT BEST. CAN YOU JUST SEE EITHER MURPHY OR DELGADO PLAYING 1B THE BOBBYV WAY? CAN YOU SAY SITTING @ FLD LEVEL BEHIND 1B REQUIRES SPEC INSURANCE RIDER? WHAT DIFFERENCE IS BOBBY GOING TO MAKE? HIS PERSONALITY ALONE OVERSHADOWS ANY HOMEGROWN CLUBHOUSE LEADERSHIP. DON'T YOU REMEMBER THE SAME RUDDERLESS ARTICLES ABOUT LACK OF LEADERSHIP EXHUDED BY OLERRUD OR PIAZZA? AS A PLAYER HE WAS A 1 TRICK PONY,SPEED, BROKE HIS LEG, BECAME .260 HITTER. U LIKELY LOVED THE CLASSLESS DISGUISE SITUATION, TOO! BOBBY V. IS “THE WORLD’S BIGGEST BASEBALL EXPERT” IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE THAT JUST ASK HIM!
I DON’T GET IT. WHAT HAS HE EVER WON IN MLB? I UNDERSTAND WHY THE PRESS LOVES HIM; BUT THE FANS? I DON’T UNDERSTAND UNLESS YOU WERE IN DIAPERS IN 2000 & HEARD ROMANTICIZIED STORIES? WITHOUT OLERUD @ 1B THAT INFIELD IS AVG AT BEST. CAN YOU JUST SEE EITHER MURPHY OR DELGADO PLAYING 1B THE BOBBYV WAY? CAN YOU SAY SITTING @ FLD LEVEL BEHIND 1B REQUIRES SPEC INSURANCE RIDER? WHAT DIFFERENCE IS BOBBY GOING TO MAKE? HIS PERSONALITY ALONE OVERSHADOWS ANY HOMEGROWN CLUBHOUSE LEADERSHIP. DON’T YOU REMEMBER THE SAME RUDDERLESS ARTICLES ABOUT LACK OF LEADERSHIP EXHUDED BY OLERRUD OR PIAZZA? AS A PLAYER HE WAS A 1 TRICK PONY,SPEED, BROKE HIS LEG, BECAME .260 HITTER.

]]> By: metsfan345 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-should-the-mets-do-with-billy-wagner.html#comment-25424 metsfan345 Sun, 09 Aug 2009 18:35:36 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10525#comment-25424 why do we need to keep billy? paying 8 mil for a reliver is ridiculous, so after saying that i wouldnt be suprised if the mets do that why do we need to keep billy? paying 8 mil for a reliver is ridiculous, so after saying that i wouldnt be suprised if the mets do that

]]> By: mary http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-should-the-mets-do-with-billy-wagner.html#comment-25418 mary Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:17:18 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10525#comment-25418 Well we have to see how good he is. If he is as good, or better than the guys we have now I say keep him for next year. If K-Rod keeps acting weird then we could use Billy for those close games and we could ALWAYS use another dependable arm in the bullpen. We coudl trade Putz as part of a nice deal in the off-season. Well we have to see how good he is. If he is as good, or better than the guys we have now I say keep him for next year. If K-Rod keeps acting weird then we could use Billy for those close games and we could ALWAYS use another dependable arm in the bullpen. We coudl trade Putz as part of a nice deal in the off-season.

]]> By: James K. http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-should-the-mets-do-with-billy-wagner.html#comment-25414 James K. Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:15:21 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10525#comment-25414 Ed, The Mets would be beyond foolish to offer Billy arbitration. He would likely be awarded a similar salary (maybe a bit lower) to his current one. Paying Billy any more than a couple million next season would be ludicrous. There is almost no chance they offer him arbitration and with good reason. Ed,

The Mets would be beyond foolish to offer Billy arbitration. He would likely be awarded a similar salary (maybe a bit lower) to his current one. Paying Billy any more than a couple million next season would be ludicrous. There is almost no chance they offer him arbitration and with good reason.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-should-the-mets-do-with-billy-wagner.html#comment-25413 METS62FAN Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:11:55 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10525#comment-25413 CAPSLOCK=DISABILITY ACCOMODATION SACH, WISE SHORT TERM; BUT VERY NEARSIGHTED SINCE THE 1B F/A POOL IS EXTREMLY SHALLOW & WITHOUT A BOPPER IN #4 WE'VE CONSISTANTLY PROVEN TO COME UP SHORT. BOTH BELTRAN & WRIGHT NEED TO BRACKET THUNDER IN THE LINEUP. POERSONALLY, I CROSS MY FINGERS, HOPE TO KEEP DELGADO ON THE RELATIVLY CHEAP & DEAL WAGS HOPING TO SNAG A 1B OR 2B TOP PROSPECT IN AA OR AAA, PERHAPS ONE CLOSE TO RULE 5 CONSIDERATION? HERE'S YR 1B '10 FREE AGENT POOL: Player Club First Basemen Russell Branyan SEA Carlos Delgado NYM Jason Giambi * OAK Ross Gload * FLA Aubrey Huff BAL Nick Johnson FLA Adam LaRoche ATL Robb Quinlan LAA Matt Stairs PHI Mike Sweeney SEA Jim Thome CHW Chad Tracy ARZ SORRY; BUT MURPH IS NOT AN ANSWER AS MUCH AS HE IS A HUGE QUESTION SAME AS NICK EVANS. CAPSLOCK=DISABILITY ACCOMODATION
SACH, WISE SHORT TERM; BUT VERY NEARSIGHTED SINCE THE 1B F/A POOL IS EXTREMLY SHALLOW & WITHOUT A BOPPER IN #4 WE’VE CONSISTANTLY PROVEN TO COME UP SHORT. BOTH BELTRAN & WRIGHT NEED TO BRACKET THUNDER IN THE LINEUP. POERSONALLY, I CROSS MY FINGERS, HOPE TO KEEP DELGADO ON THE RELATIVLY CHEAP & DEAL WAGS HOPING TO SNAG A 1B OR 2B TOP PROSPECT IN AA OR AAA, PERHAPS ONE CLOSE TO RULE 5 CONSIDERATION? HERE’S YR 1B ’10 FREE AGENT POOL:
Player Club
First Basemen
Russell Branyan SEA
Carlos Delgado NYM
Jason Giambi * OAK
Ross Gload * FLA
Aubrey Huff BAL
Nick Johnson FLA
Adam LaRoche ATL
Robb Quinlan LAA
Matt Stairs PHI
Mike Sweeney SEA
Jim Thome CHW
Chad Tracy ARZ
SORRY; BUT MURPH IS NOT AN ANSWER AS MUCH AS HE IS A HUGE QUESTION SAME AS NICK EVANS.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-should-the-mets-do-with-billy-wagner.html#comment-25412 METS62FAN Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:00:16 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10525#comment-25412 CAPSLOCK=DISABILITY ACCOMODATION HAS THERE BEEN A BIGGER EGO PLAYING FOR THIS FRANCHISE THIS CENTURY? I DON'T THINK SO. I DO NOT ANTICIPATE BILLY WAGS ACCEPTING A SUPPORT ROLE AS SETUP OR LOOGIE AT LEAST NOT DELIBERATLY & WITH FRANKIE THAT ROLE IS FILLED. A SPARE PART? THAT'S WORSE THAN SETUP/LOOGIE. DO YOU REALLY WANT A MALCONTENT WAGNER SPOUTING OFF WITH VENOM? THIS IS NOT AFFABLE JOHNNY FRANCO THIS IS "KNOW YOUR PLACE,ROOK WAGNER. I DON'T EVER SEE HIM ACCEPTING ARBITRATION TO BE ANY ONES CADDY OR UNDERSTUDY. WHAT EVER COURSE COSTS THE LEAST; BUT YIELDS THE BEST PROSPECT IS THE WAY I'D GO. CAPSLOCK=DISABILITY ACCOMODATION
HAS THERE BEEN A BIGGER EGO PLAYING FOR THIS FRANCHISE THIS CENTURY? I DON’T THINK SO. I DO NOT ANTICIPATE BILLY WAGS ACCEPTING A SUPPORT ROLE AS SETUP OR LOOGIE AT LEAST NOT DELIBERATLY & WITH FRANKIE THAT ROLE IS FILLED. A SPARE PART? THAT’S WORSE THAN SETUP/LOOGIE. DO YOU REALLY WANT A MALCONTENT WAGNER SPOUTING OFF WITH VENOM? THIS IS NOT AFFABLE JOHNNY FRANCO THIS IS “KNOW YOUR PLACE,ROOK WAGNER. I DON’T EVER SEE HIM ACCEPTING ARBITRATION TO BE ANY ONES CADDY OR UNDERSTUDY. WHAT EVER COURSE COSTS THE LEAST; BUT YIELDS THE BEST PROSPECT IS THE WAY I’D GO.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-should-the-mets-do-with-billy-wagner.html#comment-25409 theonlymaskman Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:29:29 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10525#comment-25409 The way this team is going, the Mets have to hang on to every single players who has star qualities. If Billy is truly recovered from his surgery, they should keep him. With all the uncertainties hanging over Putz and now KRod, we need to keep Billy on the team. The way this team is going, the Mets have to hang on to every single players who has star qualities. If Billy is truly recovered from his surgery, they should keep him. With all the uncertainties hanging over Putz and now KRod, we need to keep Billy on the team.

]]> By: Mikey J http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-should-the-mets-do-with-billy-wagner.html#comment-25402 Mikey J Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:37:15 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10525#comment-25402 Since he has value if he's in any way recovered, they might just trade him and get what they can. I bet any team in contention would jump at the chance to trade for Wagner. I'm so bummed about this team right now....we have sunk to be as bad as Washington, where you expect to lose almost every day. Since he has value if he’s in any way recovered, they might just trade him and get what they can. I bet any team in contention would jump at the chance to trade for Wagner.

I’m so bummed about this team right now….we have sunk to be as bad as Washington, where you expect to lose almost every day.

]]> By: Jeff http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-should-the-mets-do-with-billy-wagner.html#comment-25392 Jeff Sun, 09 Aug 2009 01:45:48 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10525#comment-25392 Hey did anyone hear about Bobby Valentine coming back to manage Major League Baseball? My dad was telling me about it. I would love to see him come back and manage the Mets. What a class guy he was! Love Bobby V.! Hey did anyone hear about Bobby Valentine coming back to manage Major League Baseball? My dad was telling me about it. I would love to see him come back and manage the Mets. What a class guy he was! Love Bobby V.!

]]> By: Ed Leyro http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-should-the-mets-do-with-billy-wagner.html#comment-25385 Ed Leyro Sun, 09 Aug 2009 01:28:19 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10525#comment-25385 Thank you to both James and Sach for the corrections. If Wagner is not traded before August 31, the Mets should offer him a salary arbitration amount that they know he would decline. Then they would still get the two draft picks. Not offering him anything would result in no draft pick compensation. That being said, I wouldn't mind if the Mets kept him for 2010. Basically, they'd retain him for $7 million because it would cost them $1 million to wave goodbye and his option is for $8 million. If something happens to K-Rod next year, would you want the Mets to go with unproven closers like they did in 2008? They could insert Wags into the closer's role and not skip a beat. The worst case scenario would be to let him go without offering him salary arbitration. If that should happen, then Omar should definitely go, if he's not already gone by the time the arbitration decision is made. Thank you to both James and Sach for the corrections. If Wagner is not traded before August 31, the Mets should offer him a salary arbitration amount that they know he would decline. Then they would still get the two draft picks. Not offering him anything would result in no draft pick compensation.

That being said, I wouldn’t mind if the Mets kept him for 2010. Basically, they’d retain him for $7 million because it would cost them $1 million to wave goodbye and his option is for $8 million. If something happens to K-Rod next year, would you want the Mets to go with unproven closers like they did in 2008? They could insert Wags into the closer’s role and not skip a beat.

The worst case scenario would be to let him go without offering him salary arbitration. If that should happen, then Omar should definitely go, if he’s not already gone by the time the arbitration decision is made.

]]> By: Sach C. http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-should-the-mets-do-with-billy-wagner.html#comment-25383 Sach C. Sun, 09 Aug 2009 01:12:46 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10525#comment-25383 I'd trade him and Delgado. If both are going to be type a or b free agents, it'd be too risky to offer arbitration in case they accept. If we trade them, we can get a few good AA prospects. I’d trade him and Delgado. If both are going to be type a or b free agents, it’d be too risky to offer arbitration in case they accept. If we trade them, we can get a few good AA prospects.

]]> By: Sach C. http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-should-the-mets-do-with-billy-wagner.html#comment-25382 Sach C. Sun, 09 Aug 2009 01:11:07 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10525#comment-25382 If you buy him out, you don't get picks. In order to get picks, you have to offer arbitration and he has to turn it down. If you buy him out, you don’t get picks. In order to get picks, you have to offer arbitration and he has to turn it down.

]]> By: Phil Hoops http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-should-the-mets-do-with-billy-wagner.html#comment-25381 Phil Hoops Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:20:51 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10525#comment-25381 If Wagner proves to be effective within couple of weeks I would undoubtedly try to trade him to a contender to try to restock the farm system. If Wagner proves to be effective within couple of weeks I would undoubtedly try to trade him to a contender to try to restock the farm system.

]]> By: Fred http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-should-the-mets-do-with-billy-wagner.html#comment-25378 Fred Sat, 08 Aug 2009 22:40:29 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10525#comment-25378 Buy him out and take the picks. The Mets couldn't give Abreu $5M but they'll give Wagner $8M to be a setup guy? I don't see it happening. Buy him out and take the picks. The Mets couldn’t give Abreu $5M but they’ll give Wagner $8M to be a setup guy? I don’t see it happening.

]]> By: James K. http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-should-the-mets-do-with-billy-wagner.html#comment-25377 James K. Sat, 08 Aug 2009 22:39:06 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10525#comment-25377 In order to receive a draft pick from another team that signs him, the Mets would have to offer arbitration to Wagner, which, if he accepted, would cost the Mets a ton of money. It's doubtful that they will offer him arbitration so they probably won't receive any draft pick. In order to receive a draft pick from another team that signs him, the Mets would have to offer arbitration to Wagner, which, if he accepted, would cost the Mets a ton of money. It’s doubtful that they will offer him arbitration so they probably won’t receive any draft pick.

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