Comments on: What Do The Mets Do With Ollie? http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-do-the-mets-do-with-ollie.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=what-do-the-mets-do-with-ollie Fri, 25 May 2012 14:18:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-do-the-mets-do-with-ollie.html#comment-25952 METS62FAN Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:22:34 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10164#comment-25952 MASK, FYI NO WBC UNTIL '13, I BELIEVE. UNLESS IT'S CHANGED IT'S LIKE THE OLYMPICS 4 YR SCHED, OLLIE WILL BE LONG GONE BY THEN ACCORDING TO U. THE FIRST WBC SEEMED TO BEAR PRODIGOUS FRUIT IN OUR BEHALF PRIOR TO '06 REATING AN IMPETUS FOR OUR PARTICIPANTS TO GET OFF TO FAST STARTS IN '06 SEASON, THIS LAST ONE WAS , IN MY OPINION, DISASTROUS FOR US AS I BLAME IT FOR OLLIE & REYES' 'LOST' SEASONS. REYES GOT OFF TO HIS WORST BASESTEALING START OF HIS YOUNG CAREER IN '09(LEG INJURY FROM WBC?)HOPFULLY FRED WILL BE MORE CONSERVATIVE AS HE WAS WITH JOHAN, PLACING FIN'L RESTRICTIONS ON NAT'L TEAMS. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU; BUT I STILL PREFER THAT OMAR DIDN'T GET MANIPULATED ON LOWE IN EXCESS OF 60M/4 YRS. SIBCE THAT WAS ATL BID, EXCEEDING IT WOULD BE NEEDED TO SECURE HIS SERVICES. REDIVULOUS, WHILE U MAY BE SURE OLLIE'S A BUST FOREVER, AT LEAST FOREVER LASTS ONLY 3 YRS NOT 4 & 24+M LESS. GARLAND? WOLF? CRIPPLED SHEETS? NOT SURER GAMBLES THAN OLLIE, THE DEVIL WE KNEW, HISTORICALLY GOOD Vs ATL & PHL. WOLF HAS RUMORED ISSUES AS DOES LOWE WITH HIS IMBIBING TO EXCESS SUPPOSEDLY. NOT SUCH GREAT ALTERNATIVES. IS THERE A BETTER WAY TO BUILD THIS CLUB THAN OMAR'S PATH? YES! CEWRTAINLY NEAR IMPOSSIBLE WITHIN WILPON CONSTRICTIONS/RESTRICTIONS. NO MATTER TYHE GM THE OWNERSHIP CALL THE TUNE & SETS THE PACE. OF THE 12 GMs HIRED BY THIS FRANCHISE, I RATE OMAR #2 BEHIND CASHEN. WEISS, DEVINE, MURPHY, SCHEFFING, McDONALD, CASHEN, HUNSICKER, HARAZIN, McILVANE, PHILLIPS, DUQUETTE, MINAYA. IS FAR FROM AN ILLUSTRIOUS LIST. LONGEST TENURE 11 YRS(CASHEN '80-'90+1 WK IN'98) SHORTEST 9 MOS(SCHEFFING.1/70-10/70). MASK, FYI NO WBC UNTIL ’13, I BELIEVE. UNLESS IT’S CHANGED IT’S LIKE THE OLYMPICS 4 YR SCHED, OLLIE WILL BE LONG GONE BY THEN ACCORDING TO U. THE FIRST WBC SEEMED TO BEAR PRODIGOUS FRUIT IN OUR BEHALF PRIOR TO ’06 REATING AN IMPETUS FOR OUR PARTICIPANTS TO GET OFF TO FAST STARTS IN ’06 SEASON, THIS LAST ONE WAS , IN MY OPINION, DISASTROUS FOR US AS I BLAME IT FOR OLLIE & REYES’ ‘LOST’ SEASONS. REYES GOT OFF TO HIS WORST BASESTEALING START OF HIS YOUNG CAREER IN ’09(LEG INJURY FROM WBC?)HOPFULLY FRED WILL BE MORE CONSERVATIVE AS HE WAS WITH JOHAN, PLACING FIN’L RESTRICTIONS ON NAT’L TEAMS. I DON’T KNOW ABOUT YOU; BUT I STILL PREFER THAT OMAR DIDN’T GET MANIPULATED ON LOWE IN EXCESS OF 60M/4 YRS. SIBCE THAT WAS ATL BID, EXCEEDING IT WOULD BE NEEDED TO SECURE HIS SERVICES. REDIVULOUS, WHILE U MAY BE SURE OLLIE’S A BUST FOREVER, AT LEAST FOREVER LASTS ONLY 3 YRS NOT 4 & 24+M LESS. GARLAND? WOLF? CRIPPLED SHEETS? NOT SURER GAMBLES THAN OLLIE, THE DEVIL WE KNEW, HISTORICALLY GOOD Vs ATL & PHL. WOLF HAS RUMORED ISSUES AS DOES LOWE WITH HIS IMBIBING TO EXCESS SUPPOSEDLY. NOT SUCH GREAT ALTERNATIVES. IS THERE A BETTER WAY TO BUILD THIS CLUB THAN OMAR’S PATH? YES! CEWRTAINLY NEAR IMPOSSIBLE WITHIN WILPON CONSTRICTIONS/RESTRICTIONS. NO MATTER TYHE GM THE OWNERSHIP CALL THE TUNE & SETS THE PACE. OF THE 12 GMs HIRED BY THIS FRANCHISE, I RATE OMAR #2 BEHIND CASHEN. WEISS, DEVINE, MURPHY, SCHEFFING, McDONALD, CASHEN, HUNSICKER, HARAZIN, McILVANE, PHILLIPS, DUQUETTE, MINAYA. IS FAR FROM AN ILLUSTRIOUS LIST. LONGEST TENURE 11 YRS(CASHEN ’80-’90+1 WK IN’98) SHORTEST 9 MOS(SCHEFFING.1/70-10/70).

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-do-the-mets-do-with-ollie.html#comment-25923 theonlymaskman Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:26:52 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10164#comment-25923 Mets 62, Ollie is not so new a young player that we haven't seen enough of him to be able to project the future. His improved aspect lasted all of 1 game. His follow-up outing reverted to the Ollie norm which is not up to a 3 yr $36mil contract. He is demonstrating that he is mediocre at best and not a star quality pitcher worthy of that contract. With 1 good outing this year, I am not willing to go long on Ollie. He has essentially frittered away 1 yr of his huge 3 yr contract. Other than 1 game, there is very little prognosis of anything better to come from him. With Omar bidding against himself for Ollie's questionable services, Omar stands indicted. There clearly were better options available. My example of Halladay and Lackey were just examples. If you say Marquis was a better buy, that's fine and I agree. As far as Warthen, goes he hasn't shown ability to do much with anybody. Possibly some good effect on Parnell's last outing. But that could be all Parnell on his own just as easily. So give Warthen time to work with Ollie? I don't think so, his criticism of Ollie early on in ST seems to have alienated them from each other. I don't think Ollie is smart enough to listen to Warthen after receiving that slap. Ollie looks to me more like the old Al Leiter struggling to stay in the Majors after his career was shot than the young Al Leiter on the way up. Unfortunately, we're stuck with Ollie the boat anchor for the next 2 yrs. I don't believe there is any way that outrageous contract will be vindicated and Omar needs to pay the piper for that. The rotation competition is fine, but to be able to restore this team to excellence, it will require new blood to be brought in over the next 2 years. Otherwise it's mediocrity for the indefinite future for Mets fans. Ollie will get traded off for table scraps in 2 yrs. And any GM that allows Ollie to vacation with the WBC next spring needs to be canned on the spot. Mets 62, Ollie is not so new a young player that we haven’t seen enough of him to be able to project the future. His improved aspect lasted all of 1 game. His follow-up outing reverted to the Ollie norm which is not up to a 3 yr $36mil contract. He is demonstrating that he is mediocre at best and not a star quality pitcher worthy of that contract. With 1 good outing this year, I am not willing to go long on Ollie. He has essentially frittered away 1 yr of his huge 3 yr contract. Other than 1 game, there is very little prognosis of anything better to come from him. With Omar bidding against himself for Ollie’s questionable services, Omar stands indicted. There clearly were better options available. My example of Halladay and Lackey were just examples. If you say Marquis was a better buy, that’s fine and I agree. As far as Warthen, goes he hasn’t shown ability to do much with anybody. Possibly some good effect on Parnell’s last outing. But that could be all Parnell on his own just as easily. So give Warthen time to work with Ollie? I don’t think so, his criticism of Ollie early on in ST seems to have alienated them from each other. I don’t think Ollie is smart enough to listen to Warthen after receiving that slap. Ollie looks to me more like the old Al Leiter struggling to stay in the Majors after his career was shot than the young Al Leiter on the way up. Unfortunately, we’re stuck with Ollie the boat anchor for the next 2 yrs. I don’t believe there is any way that outrageous contract will be vindicated and Omar needs to pay the piper for that. The rotation competition is fine, but to be able to restore this team to excellence, it will require new blood to be brought in over the next 2 years. Otherwise it’s mediocrity for the indefinite future for Mets fans. Ollie will get traded off for table scraps in 2 yrs. And any GM that allows Ollie to vacation with the WBC next spring needs to be canned on the spot.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-do-the-mets-do-with-ollie.html#comment-25918 METS62FAN Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:54:45 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10164#comment-25918 MASK, ONCE MORE YOU'RE ASSUMING "WHAT IS TODAY" IS UNCHANGEABLE AND FOR ALL TOMORROW'S "IT WILL BE WHAT IT IS". I KNOW YOU KNOW LHP DEVELOP SLOWER, NORMALLY & HISTORICALLY, I BELIEVE THAT LIKELY GETS (CK OUT LEITER'S EARLY CAREER) EXHAGGERATED WITH A LANGUAGE BARRIER. HAVE YOU EVER LISTENED TO OLLIE BEING INTERVIEWED? TO ME, IT'S OBVIOUS HIS COMMAND OF ENGLISH IS VENEER DEPTH ONLY & THERE IS OBVIOUSLY MUCH ROOM FOR IMPROVMENT. WHEN OLLIE PEREZ ONLY WALKS 2 OR LESS IN AN OUTING HE'S AS GOOD AS ANY NON-ACE OUT THERE. JUST AS YOU WERE READY TO EXECUTE OMAR OVER CASTILLO, I STILL BELIEVE THERE'S A POSSIBILITY IF NOT A PROBABILITY PEREZ' 3 YR CONTRACT WILL BE VALIDATED IN COMPARISON TO LOWE'S 4 YR DEAL OVER FULL TERM. WILPONS DIDN'T BUYOUT ONTRACTS BEFORE MAIDOFF & BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T DO IT POST MAIDOFF DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. SEE KAZ MATSUI, ROBBY ALOMAR, BOBBY BONILLA AS WELL AS LACK OF CASH CONTRIBUTIONS IN BENITEZ,BURNITZ,VENTURA,ZEILLE TRANSACTIONS. YOUR SETTLING FOR OBVIOUS IS ACCENTUATED BY YOUR LISTING LACKEY AS A PRIME TARGET. HERE'S SOME LACKEY INFO... AGE 31, RHP, 251-118 CAREER RECORD, 9-7 2009 RECORD, 1.26 WHIP-'09 COMPARE TO THIS: AGE 31, RHP, 92-78 CAREER, 13-8 2009 RECORD, 1.26WHIP-'09 THAT SECOND PITCHER IS JASON MARQUIS FROM S.I. & LIKELY MUCH LESS COSTLY WITH LESS COMPETITION. GETTING BACK TO PEREZ, HIS LAST COUPLE OF STARTS WITH HIS NEW 'PAUSED' MECHANICS IT'S IMPERATIVE HE MAINTAIN THEM ALONG WITH A CATCHER WHO CAN NURSE HIM THROUGH WITH MINIMAL MOVEMENT BEHIND DISH. INCONSISTANT OLLIE IS CERTAINLY A #5 GRADE PITCHER. THIS IMPROVED VERSION LOOKS TO BE CAPABLE AS A #3 ESPECIALLY AGAINST HEAVILY L TILTED LINEUPS aka PJILLIES. I'M FOR KEEPING AN OPEN MIND RE. "OLLIE, THE MERCURIAL" I'D CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE WHAT WARTHEN CAN DO WITH HIM IN A FULL ST SANS WBC. TO ME PELFREY & MAINE ARE THE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES FOR WARTHEN. I'D CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE A WIDE OPEN ST COMPETITION FOR THE ROTATION BETWEEN ALL NON-SANTANAS, PELFREY,NIEVES,MAINE,PEREZ,PARNELL,NEISE. LOSERS NOT NAMED PEREZ TO BE OFFERED MILB DEALS & KEPT WAREHOUSED IN BUFFALO AS APPROPRIATE. MASK, ONCE MORE YOU’RE ASSUMING “WHAT IS TODAY” IS UNCHANGEABLE AND FOR ALL TOMORROW’S “IT WILL BE WHAT IT IS”. I KNOW YOU KNOW LHP DEVELOP SLOWER, NORMALLY & HISTORICALLY, I BELIEVE THAT LIKELY GETS (CK OUT LEITER’S EARLY CAREER) EXHAGGERATED WITH A LANGUAGE BARRIER. HAVE YOU EVER LISTENED TO OLLIE BEING INTERVIEWED? TO ME, IT’S OBVIOUS HIS COMMAND OF ENGLISH IS VENEER DEPTH ONLY & THERE IS OBVIOUSLY MUCH ROOM FOR IMPROVMENT. WHEN OLLIE PEREZ ONLY WALKS 2 OR LESS IN AN OUTING HE’S AS GOOD AS ANY NON-ACE OUT THERE. JUST AS YOU WERE READY TO EXECUTE OMAR OVER CASTILLO, I STILL BELIEVE THERE’S A POSSIBILITY IF NOT A PROBABILITY PEREZ’ 3 YR CONTRACT WILL BE VALIDATED IN COMPARISON TO LOWE’S 4 YR DEAL OVER FULL TERM. WILPONS DIDN’T BUYOUT ONTRACTS BEFORE MAIDOFF & BECAUSE THEY WOULDN’T DO IT POST MAIDOFF DOESN’T MEAN ANYTHING. SEE KAZ MATSUI, ROBBY ALOMAR, BOBBY BONILLA AS WELL AS LACK OF CASH CONTRIBUTIONS IN BENITEZ,BURNITZ,VENTURA,ZEILLE TRANSACTIONS.
YOUR SETTLING FOR OBVIOUS IS ACCENTUATED BY YOUR LISTING LACKEY AS A PRIME TARGET. HERE’S SOME LACKEY INFO…
AGE 31, RHP, 251-118 CAREER RECORD, 9-7 2009 RECORD, 1.26 WHIP-’09
COMPARE TO THIS:
AGE 31, RHP, 92-78 CAREER, 13-8 2009 RECORD, 1.26WHIP-’09
THAT SECOND PITCHER IS JASON MARQUIS FROM S.I. & LIKELY MUCH LESS COSTLY WITH LESS COMPETITION.
GETTING BACK TO PEREZ, HIS LAST COUPLE OF STARTS WITH HIS NEW ‘PAUSED’ MECHANICS IT’S IMPERATIVE HE MAINTAIN THEM ALONG WITH A CATCHER WHO CAN NURSE HIM THROUGH WITH MINIMAL MOVEMENT BEHIND DISH. INCONSISTANT OLLIE IS CERTAINLY A #5 GRADE PITCHER. THIS IMPROVED VERSION LOOKS TO BE CAPABLE AS A #3 ESPECIALLY AGAINST HEAVILY L TILTED LINEUPS aka PJILLIES. I’M FOR KEEPING AN OPEN MIND RE. “OLLIE, THE MERCURIAL” I’D CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE WHAT WARTHEN CAN DO WITH HIM IN A FULL ST SANS WBC. TO ME PELFREY & MAINE ARE THE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES FOR WARTHEN. I’D CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE A WIDE OPEN ST COMPETITION FOR THE ROTATION BETWEEN ALL NON-SANTANAS, PELFREY,NIEVES,MAINE,PEREZ,PARNELL,NEISE. LOSERS NOT NAMED PEREZ TO BE OFFERED MILB DEALS & KEPT WAREHOUSED IN BUFFALO AS APPROPRIATE.

]]> By: Joe D http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-do-the-mets-do-with-ollie.html#comment-25858 Joe D Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:46:52 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10164#comment-25858 I agree and one thing that really stinks... The Mets were the ONLY team bidding on Perez. They had NO REASON to upgrade their original 2-year $20 million dollar deal, which was still overpriced in my opinion. Scott Bore-Ass aka Satan, screwed us. I agree and one thing that really stinks…

The Mets were the ONLY team bidding on Perez. They had NO REASON to upgrade their original 2-year $20 million dollar deal, which was still overpriced in my opinion.

Scott Bore-Ass aka Satan, screwed us.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-do-the-mets-do-with-ollie.html#comment-25857 theonlymaskman Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:43:46 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10164#comment-25857 He is a boat anchor that this team needs to carry for the next 2 years even though we're not afloat. Just this one miserable contract should be enough to justify cutting Omar loose. He is a boat anchor that this team needs to carry for the next 2 years even though we’re not afloat. Just this one miserable contract should be enough to justify cutting Omar loose.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-do-the-mets-do-with-ollie.html#comment-25855 theonlymaskman Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:39:56 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10164#comment-25855 Yeah, ain't that a gas we have 2012 to look forward to. And we can do that only if 2010 is an improvement over this putrid season and 2011 is another step up. But there is just too much potential to get derailed along the way. This is far from a pretty situation we're in. We need to improve in many dimensions while our owners have achieved poverty status. Hopefully the sales at the Shake Shack keep up so the Coupons don't have to resort to food stamps for their sustenance. Yeah, ain’t that a gas we have 2012 to look forward to. And we can do that only if 2010 is an improvement over this putrid season and 2011 is another step up. But there is just too much potential to get derailed along the way. This is far from a pretty situation we’re in.

We need to improve in many dimensions while our owners have achieved poverty status. Hopefully the sales at the Shake Shack keep up so the Coupons don’t have to resort to food stamps for their sustenance.

]]> By: Greg from Brooklyn http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-do-the-mets-do-with-ollie.html#comment-25854 Greg from Brooklyn Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:39:05 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10164#comment-25854 I've said it before and I'll say it again. Just because crazy Ollie became a free agent, it didn't mean that he all of the sudden became one of the top pitchers in baseball as Scott Bore-us would have you to believe. I used to like Omar (until that infamous Rubin press conference). But he has made some ugly, embarrassing mistakes, like Orlando Hernandez, Moises Alou, Livan Hernandez, Louie Castillio, and of course signing that idiot Ollie, that outweigh the good signings. Besides getting the top free agents and having Santana fall into his lap, the best thing Omar did was to lock up Wright and Reyes. Those contracts are bargings, especiall Reyes' contract. I remember the spin on signing the intelectually disabled Ollie was that he pitched well against the Phillies, Braves, and Yankees. The other spin was that he got married and has matured. So what happened when he pitched against the Phillies....he flopped, on national TV at that. Now we're stuck with this flake Perez. And if Perez' knee was hurt....I got a Brooklyn bridge to sell you in Maryland. The Nut job Oliver Perez WILL NEVER BE A TOP FLIGHT PITCHER. All we can hope for is the the Mets can win inspite of Oliver Perez. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Just because crazy Ollie became a free agent, it didn’t mean that he all of the sudden became one of the top pitchers in baseball as Scott Bore-us would have you to believe.

I used to like Omar (until that infamous Rubin press conference). But he has made some ugly, embarrassing mistakes, like Orlando Hernandez, Moises Alou, Livan Hernandez, Louie Castillio, and of course signing that idiot Ollie, that outweigh the good signings.

Besides getting the top free agents and having Santana fall into his lap, the best thing Omar did was to lock up Wright and Reyes. Those contracts are bargings, especiall Reyes’ contract.

I remember the spin on signing the intelectually disabled Ollie was that he pitched well against the Phillies, Braves, and Yankees. The other spin was that he got married and has matured.

So what happened when he pitched against the Phillies….he flopped, on national TV at that.

Now we’re stuck with this flake Perez.

And if Perez’ knee was hurt….I got a Brooklyn bridge to sell you in Maryland.

The Nut job Oliver Perez WILL NEVER BE A TOP FLIGHT PITCHER.
All we can hope for is the the Mets can win inspite of Oliver Perez.

]]> By: Aye http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-do-the-mets-do-with-ollie.html#comment-25842 Aye Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:17:52 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10164#comment-25842 Besides the walks, ever since returning from the DL he hasnt been that bad. He strikes out hitters and really manages to get out when he needs them. Its just that because he walks so many pitchers, he is a 5 inning pitcher. The reality is Ollie aint going anywhere unless the mets kick in like 7 million each year of his salary, making him a 5 million dollar pitcher. Frankly I dont even know if this would be enough. If Parnell and Niese Pan out (and thats a big IF), we could slide Ollie to the 5th spot where he would eb the highest paid 5th starting pitcher, but Hes staying. LOL@ hopefully by 2012 this team will be healthy again. DAMN! Honestly Pierre's contract is horrible, and hes a 4th outfielder at best. Id rather have Ollie and his 5 innings 6 walks, 7 strikeouts, and 2 runs allowed. Besides the walks, ever since returning from the DL he hasnt been that bad. He strikes out hitters and really manages to get out when he needs them. Its just that because he walks so many pitchers, he is a 5 inning pitcher. The reality is Ollie aint going anywhere unless the mets kick in like 7 million each year of his salary, making him a 5 million dollar pitcher. Frankly I dont even know if this would be enough.

If Parnell and Niese Pan out (and thats a big IF), we could slide Ollie to the 5th spot where he would eb the highest paid 5th starting pitcher, but Hes staying.

LOL@ hopefully by 2012 this team will be healthy again. DAMN!

Honestly Pierre’s contract is horrible, and hes a 4th outfielder at best. Id rather have Ollie and his 5 innings 6 walks, 7 strikeouts, and 2 runs allowed.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-do-the-mets-do-with-ollie.html#comment-25839 theonlymaskman Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:50:17 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10164#comment-25839 Ollie's contract is actually worse than Castillo's. Luis has actually earned his keep this year. The prospect for Ollie is that he will be a 3 yr parasite with this team. We have 2 more years of this boat anchor to look forward to. There will be no trading him; forget that. The Madoff victims are not going to accept writing off his contract. The best thing we can use this for is to hang Omar and hold his feet to the fire for giving Ollie a free ride for the rest of his life. Fire Omar and get a real GM in here. Then sign a real pitcher and drop Ollie to #5 for the next 2 yrs. Then we wind up with: Santana, real guy (such as Halladay or Lackey), Pelfrey, Parnell, Ollie. Then after another 2 yrs its "hasta la vista Ollie" and we sign another real pitcher or possibly bring in Holt or Mejias. Hopefully by 2012, this team is healthy again. Ollie’s contract is actually worse than Castillo’s. Luis has actually earned his keep this year. The prospect for Ollie is that he will be a 3 yr parasite with this team. We have 2 more years of this boat anchor to look forward to. There will be no trading him; forget that. The Madoff victims are not going to accept writing off his contract.

The best thing we can use this for is to hang Omar and hold his feet to the fire for giving Ollie a free ride for the rest of his life. Fire Omar and get a real GM in here. Then sign a real pitcher and drop Ollie to #5 for the next 2 yrs. Then we wind up with: Santana, real guy (such as Halladay or Lackey), Pelfrey, Parnell, Ollie. Then after another 2 yrs its “hasta la vista Ollie” and we sign another real pitcher or possibly bring in Holt or Mejias. Hopefully by 2012, this team is healthy again.

]]> By: Tom http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-do-the-mets-do-with-ollie.html#comment-25833 Tom Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:55:17 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10164#comment-25833 Ollie, "Don't think. It can only hurt the ballclub." - Durham Bulls catcher Crash Davis Ollie,

“Don’t think. It can only hurt the ballclub.”
- Durham Bulls catcher Crash Davis

]]> By: Joe D http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-do-the-mets-do-with-ollie.html#comment-25815 Joe D Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:32:50 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10164#comment-25815 I also wanted to bring Ollie back for the same reasons you cited. What a disaster it's turned out to be. You know what the worst part is? Going into next season, Oliver Perez becomes the third highest paid Met. More than Reyes, Wright, Francoeur, K-Rod and even Castillo. That's a scary thought. I love your theory on Perez for Pierre, but it might require us to kick in a b level prospect to make it worth their while. Although both are bad contracts, at least Pierre could step in and be a solid everyday player at any time. Oliver Perez is a big negative at this point. I also wanted to bring Ollie back for the same reasons you cited. What a disaster it’s turned out to be. You know what the worst part is? Going into next season, Oliver Perez becomes the third highest paid Met. More than Reyes, Wright, Francoeur, K-Rod and even Castillo. That’s a scary thought.

I love your theory on Perez for Pierre, but it might require us to kick in a b level prospect to make it worth their while. Although both are bad contracts, at least Pierre could step in and be a solid everyday player at any time. Oliver Perez is a big negative at this point.

]]> By: dogman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/what-do-the-mets-do-with-ollie.html#comment-25814 dogman Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:31:12 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10164#comment-25814 here's a novel idea. Ollie should give back the money! He could do this on a pro-rated basis. For every batter he walks, he gives back a million. if that doesn't cure his mixed up head - then, by my calculations, the mets would have their money back on or before 6 starts. here’s a novel idea. Ollie should give back the money! He could do this on a pro-rated basis. For every batter he walks, he gives back a million.
if that doesn’t cure his mixed up head – then, by my calculations, the mets would have their money back on or before 6 starts.

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