Comments on: Parnell Shines As Mets Shutout The Giants 3-0 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0 Fri, 25 May 2012 13:57:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Joe D http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html#comment-25864 Joe D Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:23:18 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10806#comment-25864 Hi Kevin, I actually made the decision to cut out the lineup posts and a few other features we had so that we can focus on more opinionated blogs that would engage our readers and encourage comments. We do still have game previews which focus more on matchups, trends, etc, but our guy is currently away but will be back next week I believe. Feel free to email me, about the injury update and I can give you some details on that or another possible role. GetMetsMerized@aol.com Hi Kevin,

I actually made the decision to cut out the lineup posts and a few other features we had so that we can focus on more opinionated blogs that would engage our readers and encourage comments.

We do still have game previews which focus more on matchups, trends, etc, but our guy is currently away but will be back next week I believe.

Feel free to email me, about the injury update and I can give you some details on that or another possible role. GetMetsMerized@aol.com

]]> By: kevin http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html#comment-25859 kevin Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:49:59 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10806#comment-25859 Joe D, I noticed that you haven't done lineups and game previews anymore and I would be more than happy to help out with those. I can do other stuff too. Let me know. Joe D, I noticed that you haven’t done lineups and game previews anymore and I would be more than happy to help out with those. I can do other stuff too. Let me know.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html#comment-25853 theonlymaskman Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:30:53 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10806#comment-25853 They are a ML team at least and we beat them decisively in a near totally professional effort. The lone exception I saw was the bungled double play with Murphy being awkward getting back to cover 1st with Feliciano keeping the return throw from going into the dugout. Other than that it was a great game. They are a ML team at least and we beat them decisively in a near totally professional effort. The lone exception I saw was the bungled double play with Murphy being awkward getting back to cover 1st with Feliciano keeping the return throw from going into the dugout. Other than that it was a great game.

]]> By: mary http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html#comment-25843 mary Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:22:01 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10806#comment-25843 Parnell was awesome! Wow. What a difference a start makes. 1st win, 1st shutout. Sure the Giants are not that scary of a lineup, but they are not bad either. Parnell was awesome! Wow. What a difference a start makes. 1st win, 1st shutout. Sure the Giants are not that scary of a lineup, but they are not bad either.

]]> By: Joe D http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html#comment-25838 Joe D Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:43:38 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10806#comment-25838 Amen! Amen!

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html#comment-25837 theonlymaskman Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:36:53 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10806#comment-25837 A great outing for Parnell, although against the light hitting Jints. At least he made progress, having excellent control and using an assortment of pitches not just his fastball. At the least we have now seen a young Mets player who appears to be developing! Does Warthen get any credit in leading him, or was this all on his own? Hopefully, there will be some follow through on this with a repeat in the near future. Consistency is going to be the key. It would be great if a half dozen successful outings follow and we actually wind up with a solid pitcher in the rotation. You have to give the Mets credit for something that may actually be working. Nice departure from all the failures this year. A great outing for Parnell, although against the light hitting Jints. At least he made progress, having excellent control and using an assortment of pitches not just his fastball. At the least we have now seen a young Mets player who appears to be developing! Does Warthen get any credit in leading him, or was this all on his own? Hopefully, there will be some follow through on this with a repeat in the near future. Consistency is going to be the key. It would be great if a half dozen successful outings follow and we actually wind up with a solid pitcher in the rotation. You have to give the Mets credit for something that may actually be working. Nice departure from all the failures this year.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html#comment-25836 theonlymaskman Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:29:37 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10806#comment-25836 There's only one problem with that - - Ollie think he's doing great. Remember his statement that walks are part of baseball. There’s only one problem with that – - Ollie think he’s doing great. Remember his statement that walks are part of baseball.

]]> By: Aye http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html#comment-25835 Aye Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:24:37 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10806#comment-25835 In a pretty brutal season, this was pretty encouraging. But then again So were some on Niese starts last year, Some have been Pelfreys starts, John Maine, And Oliver Perez....catch the drift? A young starting pitcher that can throw a 96mph through hitters is something to definitely get excited about, but teams havent really seen much of him because he has been a reliever this season. I am def looking forward to seeing him down the stretch this season. If he was to reach his potential and develop into an electric stud, and Niese was to develop too into the pitcher the mets hoped he would the mets might be in for a surprise of a young rotation and we would never have to see the likes of Livan hernandez or tim redding in our rotation. In a pretty brutal season, this was pretty encouraging. But then again So were some on Niese starts last year, Some have been Pelfreys starts, John Maine, And Oliver Perez….catch the drift?

A young starting pitcher that can throw a 96mph through hitters is something to definitely get excited about, but teams havent really seen much of him because he has been a reliever this season.

I am def looking forward to seeing him down the stretch this season. If he was to reach his potential and develop into an electric stud, and Niese was to develop too into the pitcher the mets hoped he would the mets might be in for a surprise of a young rotation and we would never have to see the likes of Livan hernandez or tim redding in our rotation.

]]> By: Joe D http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html#comment-25829 Joe D Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:15:57 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10806#comment-25829 Actually it was a little different. McGwire didn't feel he deserved a raise after a bad season and went to arbitration with the same figure he made the year prior. http://www.nytimes.com/1992/05/15/sports/baseball-after-a-change-of-seasons-mcgwire-s-fortunes-have-turned-golden.html Actually it was a little different. McGwire didn’t feel he deserved a raise after a bad season and went to arbitration with the same figure he made the year prior.

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/05/15/sports/baseball-after-a-change-of-seasons-mcgwire-s-fortunes-have-turned-golden.html

]]> By: Joe D http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html#comment-25828 Joe D Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:08:41 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10806#comment-25828 I'm almost certain of this, but I believe that Mark McGwire did the same thing in his 3rd or 4th season with the A's. I’m almost certain of this, but I believe that Mark McGwire did the same thing in his 3rd or 4th season with the A’s.

]]> By: Bayonne Met Fan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html#comment-25826 Bayonne Met Fan Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:03:11 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10806#comment-25826 Dogman it's been done before. Lyman Bostock, a former Twin/Angel once was so embarrassed about his start after signing a huge contract (at the time) he refused to take the money because he felt he didn't deserve it. When Angel's owner Buzzie Bavasi refused Bostock's offer, Bostock donated the money to charity. Later on his bat would heat up and help the Angels down the pennant stretch. Read about it here: http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/22/sports/sp-crowe22 If more athletes did that today then maybe there wouldn't be an economic crisis, lol. Dogman it’s been done before.

Lyman Bostock, a former Twin/Angel once was so embarrassed about his start after signing a huge contract (at the time) he refused to take the money because he felt he didn’t deserve it. When Angel’s owner Buzzie Bavasi refused Bostock’s offer, Bostock donated the money to charity. Later on his bat would heat up and help the Angels down the pennant stretch.
Read about it here:

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/22/sports/sp-crowe22

If more athletes did that today then maybe there wouldn’t be an economic crisis, lol.

]]> By: D.C. http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html#comment-25822 D.C. Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:51:04 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10806#comment-25822 He should give back half of the money to help the team get some free agents this off season. He should give back half of the money to help the team get some free agents this off season.

]]> By: dogman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html#comment-25818 dogman Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:41:58 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10806#comment-25818 Ollie needs to give back the money. It's that simple. And that brilliant. In so doing, he could win the hearts of the fans as the first athlete to subscribe to an authentic philosophy; "pay me only when i perform like a true major league starter." A clause in this verbal contract will require him to pay Los Mets a million dollars for every batter walked. If this doesn't cure him --the club gets a complete return on its investment in 6 or 7 starts. This is a complete win-win. Talk amongst yourselves. Ollie needs to give back the money. It’s that simple. And that
brilliant. In so doing, he could win the hearts of the fans as the first athlete to subscribe to an authentic philosophy; “pay me only when i perform like a true major league starter.” A clause in this verbal contract will require him to pay Los Mets a million dollars for every batter walked. If this doesn’t cure him –the club gets a complete return on its investment in 6 or 7 starts.

This is a complete win-win. Talk amongst yourselves.

]]> By: Joe D http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html#comment-25812 Joe D Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:54:45 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10806#comment-25812 I agree. The Mets (and us) should have enough information after the season to make a solid preliminary evaluation. Unlike years ago, when everything was so secretive, scouting reports are so much easier to obtain on new pitchers and advance scouts share information all the time. As I wrote in the recap, we should have a good read on Parnell after a 9 start body of work. Plus it's important to note that his secondary pitches will only get better as he improves his muscle memory. He only used two of his five pitches as a reliever, but as his feel, release points, and arm angle comes back to him, those pitches will be even more effective. Now, that said, lets remember that his projection in the minors was as a middle of the rotation starter, so lets temper those expectations. His curve looked great last night and he was fooling batters with his changeup, so I'm excited to see how good he can be once he perfects those pitches which can only come by throwing them more often. If he can get another 2-3 mph of variation on that change, it could be a huge out pitch for him. I agree. The Mets (and us) should have enough information after the season to make a solid preliminary evaluation. Unlike years ago, when everything was so secretive, scouting reports are so much easier to obtain on new pitchers and advance scouts share information all the time. As I wrote in the recap, we should have a good read on Parnell after a 9 start body of work. Plus it’s important to note that his secondary pitches will only get better as he improves his muscle memory. He only used two of his five pitches as a reliever, but as his feel, release points, and arm angle comes back to him, those pitches will be even more effective. Now, that said, lets remember that his projection in the minors was as a middle of the rotation starter, so lets temper those expectations. His curve looked great last night and he was fooling batters with his changeup, so I’m excited to see how good he can be once he perfects those pitches which can only come by throwing them more often. If he can get another 2-3 mph of variation on that change, it could be a huge out pitch for him.

]]> By: Bayonne Met Fan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html#comment-25811 Bayonne Met Fan Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:12:12 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10806#comment-25811 Well let's apply a little common sense here, which I think most people will do. Obviously I don't mean to wait years...c'mon now....my general point is it's probably going to take facing one or more teams twice during a season and facing teams in big games, even if you only face them once, the types of lineups, word getting around the league about his stuff, things like that. So I'll watch him for the rest of the year first then evaluate him. Well let’s apply a little common sense here, which I think most people will do. Obviously I don’t mean to wait years…c’mon now….my general point is it’s probably going to take facing one or more teams twice during a season and facing teams in big games, even if you only face them once, the types of lineups, word getting around the league about his stuff, things like that.

So I’ll watch him for the rest of the year first then evaluate him.

]]> By: sarge http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html#comment-25806 sarge Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:29:33 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10806#comment-25806 Amen to keeping it all in perspective but going around the league? How many years is that gonna take Bayonne? Considering limited starts for starters and you never face every team every year and sometimes it takes a few years to pitch against every team. IMO Amen to keeping it all in perspective but going around the league? How many years is that gonna take Bayonne? Considering limited starts for starters and you never face every team every year and sometimes it takes a few years to pitch against every team. IMO

]]> By: John http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html#comment-25802 John Sat, 15 Aug 2009 05:54:35 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10806#comment-25802 What's your problem Bayonne? Can't you see this guy is Cy Young reincarnated? We all can, why can't you?!? Seriously though, you're right, let's keep our perspective here. What we have on our hands is a flamethrower who is starting to develop more of his arsenal. I was at the game tonight, and he looked awesome. Poised and made his pitches. Let's hope he continues to develop into the pitcher we all hope can become. What’s your problem Bayonne? Can’t you see this guy is Cy Young reincarnated? We all can, why can’t you?!?

Seriously though, you’re right, let’s keep our perspective here. What we have on our hands is a flamethrower who is starting to develop more of his arsenal. I was at the game tonight, and he looked awesome. Poised and made his pitches. Let’s hope he continues to develop into the pitcher we all hope can become.

]]> By: Bayonne Met Fan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html#comment-25797 Bayonne Met Fan Sat, 15 Aug 2009 04:38:50 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10806#comment-25797 Before we start to christen Bobby Parnell as our number 2 starter after 2 major league starts I should remind people to catch their collective breath, take a step back, exhale, and to remember to always learn from past mistakes If you've learned ANYTHING by watching baseball is that it's a good idea to wait until a starter has gone one time around the league before making such a absurd statement. Relax. I want him to do good too and I'm happy about tonight.....but let's not jump the gun, ok? Like last years magic number count with a month left in the season, anointing Bobby Parnell as our number 2 starter after 2 major league starts reeks of the same recklessness only to be let down and then you respond withe bitterness and anger. Patience. Let's wait and see after he's gone around the league once. Before we start to christen Bobby Parnell as our number 2 starter after 2 major league starts I should remind people to catch their collective breath, take a step back, exhale, and to remember to always learn from past mistakes If you’ve learned ANYTHING by watching baseball is that it’s a good idea to wait until a starter has gone one time around the league before making such a absurd statement.

Relax.

I want him to do good too and I’m happy about tonight…..but let’s not jump the gun, ok?

Like last years magic number count with a month left in the season, anointing Bobby Parnell as our number 2 starter after 2 major league starts reeks of the same recklessness only to be let down and then you respond withe bitterness and anger.

Patience. Let’s wait and see after he’s gone around the league once.

]]> By: Greg From Brooklyn http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html#comment-25796 Greg From Brooklyn Sat, 15 Aug 2009 04:14:22 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10806#comment-25796 We may have just found our legitimate number two starter. And his grandma got his back. We may have just found our legitimate number two starter.
And his grandma got his back.

]]> By: the nick http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/08/parnell-shines-as-mets-shutout-the-giants-3-0.html#comment-25793 the nick Sat, 15 Aug 2009 04:00:06 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=10806#comment-25793 Joe, it must suck writing recaps when your team's season is essentially over, And I can see that when you write a recap you look for things that will help next season. I'm going to wait until he makes those last seven starts that you mentioned before I get too excited. But this was a big step forward for Parnell. Joe, it must suck writing recaps when your team’s season is essentially over, And I can see that when you write a recap you look for things that will help next season. I’m going to wait until he makes those last seven starts that you mentioned before I get too excited. But this was a big step forward for Parnell.

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