26
2009
More Dark Days Ahead…
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As most of you know by now, the Mets (thanks to a last ditch effort) convinced Billy Wagner to accept the trade to the Boston Red Sox.
But after reading some feedback on Red Sox blogs, I’m getting a strange feeling that we got duped.
Holy crap, we just got a first round pick and a supplemental pick for a couple of scrubs, and in the process we get to use Billy Wagner to help us win this thing. Omar Minaya is my new best friend.
So far, all we know is that we are getting a career minor leaguer in 1B/OF Chris Carter, and the Boston Herald had this to say about the second player to be named,
“According to the source, the other player dealt away to the Mets is a prospect “not of significance.”
Wow…
I don’t know what to think of Chris Carter. I don’t think he can be called a prospect after spending the last four seasons in AAA and struggling to keep his average at the .270 mark. I don’t think he can be called a prospect when he turns 27 in three weeks. The word on Carter is that he is defensively challenged and is best suited as a DH. Really?
At best, Carter may be a decent addition for the Bisons who need all the help they can get, but it doesn’t look like Carter will be much help for the Mets this year or next…
Omar Minaya is charged with protecting the future of this organization. Unless he felt that he was getting more value than the two high draft picks that the Mets had coming to them, he never should have made this deal. Period.
It looks like this was nothing but an old-fashioned salary dump.
The two players to be named later is just window dressing.
The sad part is that the Wilpon’s will most likely hang on to the $3.5 million dollars they just saved rather than invest it in a product that is turning very little in profit.
There will be more dark days ahead…
About the Author: Joe DeCaro
Went to my first Mets game, a Mayors Trophy game at Shea, in '73. We beat the Yankees 8-4 and I was hooked. I marched in two Banner Day parades, and before the Grand Slam single, there was the "Hendu Can Do" grand slam - I was there. I've collected Mets memorabilia all my life and started Mets Merized Online to feed my addiction.
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A season so full of hope and possibilitys has been slowly flushed down the toilet for so many months. I just want it to end asap, this may be worse then the sept collapes.
haha what did you expect, clay bucholz?
haha…exactly
If they think this product is losing money now, wait till next year when ticket sales drop off. No way all of Omar’s blunders will not affect how many people decide to buy season tickets. This was probably one of the worst screw ups Omar has made. Why do I say that? Because Omar didn’t have to do anything at all but sit back and collect his two draft picks. Wagner had already decided to stay! it was a win-win. Instead, we got a career AA player and some other player that is “not of significance.” That pretty much sums up what Omar, Jerry, and the Wilpons have turned this organization into, we’re the mets and we’re “not of significance.” It’s embarrassing, disheartening, and sad. And to finish it off, Omar is going nowhere!
But the Wilpons walk away with $3.5 mil in their fiscal recovery fund.
Eh I don’t mind the trade honestly. Mainly, the Mets have proven they aren’t exactly the best at scouting the draft… nor do they spend the big money on top prospects any way. All they would have done is screwed up whatever supplemental pick we’d have gotten. At least with Carter and ??? they at least KNOW what they are getting. In 2008 he was ranked
In 2008 Carter was ranked #8 among Arizona’s prospects. He’s not a bad player. http://thebaseballcube.com/players/C/Chris-Carter.shtml
Do I think he’ll be an every day player? Who knows. But I think they have more of a shot at using Carter for something valuable than hitting the jackpot with a supplemental pick that’s for sure.
If Carter was ranked number 8 for Arizona in 2008, it would have been a really neat trick being that the D-Backs traded him to the Nationals in 2007, and the Nats traded him to the Red Sox later in 2007. Carter wasn’t in the Red Sox top 20, and I couldn’t find a top 50 so how knows where he ranks now.
Devin: I apologize, I was going on this: http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/features/265320.html
Fans should go to CitiField and start a revolt against this administration. Don’t buy tickets to get into CitiField, just picket outside CitiField. As long as the Wilpons and Minaya run this team, we will never sniff another .500 season let alone a division title.
There was no dup there. It was an obviously boneheaded move by Omar. I would have rather had those picks. The Mets REALLY need to restock the farm system. Did anything ever come of the stable they are setting up in the Dominican republic? It sucks that we are reduced to hot stove talk before the end of August.
WOULDN’T MATTER IF THE METS GOT THOSE COMPENSATION DRAFT PICKS THEY WON’T PAY OVER SLOT AND JUST LIKE THIS YEAR THEY WON’T PAY THE PLAYERS THEY DRAFTED. WILPONS BETTER WAKE UP FAST OR THERE GOING TO BE LOSING MORE THAN THE 700 MILLION DOLLARS…
I believe he has had a .300+ average every season at AAA that he has been with, this is the only year he has had a below .300 average but still, he is a career minor leaguer scrub and this was a horrible trade
I dont think it was completely minaya’s fault. Clearly the wilpons wanted to get rid of salary while not thinking about the future and the first round draft pick we would have received…
I say give the guy a chance. The way I see it, this guy never really got his shot. Put him in there(full time) and lets see what he can do with his bat in the big leagues. Whats the worst that can happen? Maybe he bats .310 in Sept. and gets himself a spring training invite for next year.
can he pitch?
Ya your right, the Mets dont have any other needs. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
I think the big question is whether the Mets could have gotten the draft picks out of the arbitration process. If yes, this is probably a bad deal. If not, it is a great deal.
Let’s consider this: even if Wagner pitches lights out, he is a 38-year-old relief pitcher. Given what we saw with Juan Cruz last year, does a team give up its first-rounder for Wagner? I think it is far more likely that a team with a protected first-rounder, or one who has already signed one Type A guy signs him, and then the Mets get a sandwich pick and a second rounder, which isn’t that impressive.
And that is a top scenario. Consider the other alternatives: Wagner pitches badly in September and hurts his value. Wagner gets injured. Or worst of all: Wagner decides he can’t get $8 million anywhere else, and accepts arbitration, and the Mets can’t afford to sign anyone else of consequence in the off season.
The good thing here, is we can speculate now, but we get to see how the Wagner situation now plays out for the Red Sox. If they get the picks, we can all bad mouth Minaya. And if not, we all get to feel good about this trade.
Wiat – there may be a silver linning to this deal. Omar trades Billy Wagner and saves Fred Wilpon 3.5 million. What can Fred do with the 3.5 million? He can buy Omar out of his contract!
I’m a glass half full type of guy.
Not in the plan. The Wilpon’s need the dough for their financial recovery.
This was amazingly stupid!! Why trade Wags when IF the Mets are good next year you could have him in the pen OR offer him abritration and get 2 Picks- Of course Minaya would have drafted 2 college utility inf with “good hands” and an ability to run, who would have hit .183 at A ball. This shows little baseball savvy- QUALITY ML players are hard to find and well worth the expense- it is paying OP 12 Million a year that is laughable, or Castillo(credit for this year no doubt, and his ability to handle his Gaffes like a man) for 4 years.Wags was a USEFUL ML pitcher/trade piece and we got Nada for him….Omar must go-if for no other reason than having no plan.
It’s all the money and cutting him put $3.5 mil in the Wilpon’s pockets. Getting something back was secondary with that much moola at stake. Sheffield was different. We only had $400K in him, so when the Jints offered a bag of balls, Omar pulled him back. Billy was going even if all we got back was a groundskeeper who is skilled at unrolling tarps.