Comments on: More Shame And Wrong Moves: Time To Fire Manuel http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel Fri, 25 May 2012 11:36:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: dyhrdmet http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html#comment-23224 dyhrdmet Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:00:16 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=8340#comment-23224 To this end, I ask a simple question in the form of a poll on my blog. Who would you like to see go first? I'm not even sure what move(s) the club can make that will fix things this year. http://RememberingShea.blogspot.com To this end, I ask a simple question in the form of a poll on my blog. Who would you like to see go first? I’m not even sure what move(s) the club can make that will fix things this year.

http://RememberingShea.blogspot.com

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html#comment-23145 theonlymaskman Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:58:16 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=8340#comment-23145 You got it right. It stinks. You got it right. It stinks.

]]> By: D.C. http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html#comment-23138 D.C. Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:22:19 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=8340#comment-23138 This inaction by Mets Management really frustrate us Mets fans. The team is full of beer leaguers. This inaction by Mets Management really frustrate us Mets fans. The team is full of beer leaguers.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html#comment-23137 theonlymaskman Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:00:47 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=8340#comment-23137 If the Wilpons would need cardiac care with Manny, maybe we should have gotten him! Then we'd be free of the shackles the Wilpons impose on this team. If the Wilpons would need cardiac care with Manny, maybe we should have gotten him! Then we’d be free of the shackles the Wilpons impose on this team.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html#comment-23135 theonlymaskman Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:58:24 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=8340#comment-23135 Meant to say: to get rid of the Wilpons (I don't know how options got in there). Meant to say: to get rid of the Wilpons (I don’t know how options got in there).

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html#comment-23134 theonlymaskman Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:57:18 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=8340#comment-23134 62, Maybe you didn't read my comment. My conclusion was: "Selling the team seems to be the best option." Why would I say that? Obviously to get rid of the options. It is clear that Omar's do nothing status comes down from the Wilpons. Perhaps it is because of the luxury tax which you have been ranting about. I don't care what the reason is. It is clear that the Mets are rudderless with the Wilpons at the top. So solve the problem and get rid of THEM! The Wipons need to sell the team so that someone with real money and dedicated to success can take over. Then they can retire to their own private dreamworld of the Brooklyn Dodgers (my former team, but unlike them I have chosen to live in the present now)and visions of sugar plums. 62, Maybe you didn’t read my comment. My conclusion was: “Selling the team seems to be the best option.” Why would I say that? Obviously to get rid of the options. It is clear that Omar’s do nothing status comes down from the Wilpons. Perhaps it is because of the luxury tax which you have been ranting about. I don’t care what the reason is. It is clear that the Mets are rudderless with the Wilpons at the top. So solve the problem and get rid of THEM! The Wipons need to sell the team so that someone with real money and dedicated to success can take over. Then they can retire to their own private dreamworld of the Brooklyn Dodgers (my former team, but unlike them I have chosen to live in the present now)and visions of sugar plums.

]]> By: Neer http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html#comment-23127 Neer Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:18:22 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=8340#comment-23127 Good post METS62FAN, but it's so hard to sit back and say it's a lost season, especially the inaugural season at Citifield (maybe it's the Citibank connection bestowing bad mojo....) Good post METS62FAN, but it’s so hard to sit back and say it’s a lost season, especially the inaugural season at Citifield (maybe it’s the Citibank connection bestowing bad mojo….)

]]> By: Kay http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html#comment-23121 Kay Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:05:38 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=8340#comment-23121 Fmart was placed on the DL yesterday but hadn't played in 5 days so it gets back dated so no need to harp on that point, the date of FMart going on the DL is honestly the least of the problems right now. Fmart was placed on the DL yesterday but hadn’t played in 5 days so it gets back dated so no need to harp on that point, the date of FMart going on the DL is honestly the least of the problems right now.

]]> By: Des http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html#comment-23120 Des Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:02:23 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=8340#comment-23120 In my view, the best move the Mets made during the last off-season was not going after Manny -- a bum and a clubhouse maggot, no matter what Joe Torre is saying right now. He would be coming back right now if he had the same habits on the East Coast as on the Left Coast. His play in CitiField leftfield would be something to behold -- a clown who actually makes Lastings Milledge look good in comparison. He would have been costly rental, contributing only a half inning every inning, the offensive half. Given the Wilpons' concern for public image, they would likely need full time cardiac care by the end of this season. In my view, the best move the Mets made during the last off-season was not going after Manny — a bum and a clubhouse maggot, no matter what Joe Torre is saying right now.

He would be coming back right now if he had the same habits on the East Coast as on the Left Coast. His play in CitiField leftfield would be something to behold — a clown who actually makes Lastings Milledge look good in comparison.

He would have been costly rental, contributing only a half inning every inning, the offensive half. Given the Wilpons’ concern for public image, they would likely need full time cardiac care by the end of this season.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html#comment-23114 METS62FAN Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:46:36 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=8340#comment-23114 MASK, ONCE MORE YOU CHOOSE TO IGNORE REALITY! LIKE IT OR NOT, THE NY METS NEVER HAVE NOR WILL THERY EVER INCUR LUXURY TAXES WHILE FRED WILPON HOLD THE CONTROLS REGADLESS OF INCOME TO THE FRANCHISE. IT'S A MORAL PRINCIPLE THING! OMAR SPENT UP TO 12.6M OF HIS BOUNDARY, WHAT WOULD U DO? REMEMBER REALITY THINKING, NOT FANTASY ISLAND, TATU! MASK, ONCE MORE YOU CHOOSE TO IGNORE REALITY! LIKE IT OR NOT, THE NY METS NEVER HAVE NOR WILL THERY EVER INCUR LUXURY TAXES WHILE FRED WILPON HOLD THE CONTROLS REGADLESS OF INCOME TO THE FRANCHISE. IT’S A MORAL PRINCIPLE THING! OMAR SPENT UP TO 12.6M OF HIS BOUNDARY, WHAT WOULD U DO? REMEMBER REALITY THINKING, NOT FANTASY ISLAND, TATU!

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html#comment-23112 METS62FAN Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:43:01 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=8340#comment-23112 LIFER ARE U 12? D/Ling MARTINEZ EARLIER BUYS U WHAT? AN EXTRA WEEK OF A.REYES? OBVIOUSLY REPLASCEMENT WITH CHIP AMBRES,EMIL BROWN,JESUS FELICIANO OR CORY SULLIVAN FROM AAA WASN'T GOING TO ADD TO Ws.NOR WOULD: # NAME B/T HT WT BORN HOMETOWN 16 Emmanuel Garcia L/R 6-2 184 3/4/86 Montreal, QC 39 Jenrry Mejia R/R 6-0 162 10/11/89 Santo Domingo, DR 54 Josh Petersen R/R 6-4 226 4/15/83 Palm Beach Gardens, FL 24 Caleb Stewart R/R 6-2 238 6/11/82 Rush, KY 18 D.J. Wabick L/R 6-4 196 5/30/84 Palos Park, IL FROM AA BINGHAMTON. YOUR POINT OTHERWISE? AT LEAST HE GOT TO LEARN OFF BENCH ANOTHER WEEK. LIFER ARE U 12? D/Ling MARTINEZ EARLIER BUYS U WHAT? AN EXTRA WEEK OF A.REYES? OBVIOUSLY REPLASCEMENT WITH CHIP AMBRES,EMIL BROWN,JESUS FELICIANO OR CORY SULLIVAN FROM AAA WASN’T GOING TO ADD TO Ws.NOR WOULD:
# NAME B/T HT WT BORN HOMETOWN
16 Emmanuel Garcia L/R 6-2 184 3/4/86 Montreal, QC
39 Jenrry Mejia R/R 6-0 162 10/11/89 Santo Domingo, DR
54 Josh Petersen R/R 6-4 226 4/15/83 Palm Beach Gardens, FL
24 Caleb Stewart R/R 6-2 238 6/11/82 Rush, KY
18 D.J. Wabick L/R 6-4 196 5/30/84 Palos Park, IL
FROM AA BINGHAMTON. YOUR POINT OTHERWISE? AT LEAST HE GOT TO LEARN OFF BENCH ANOTHER WEEK.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html#comment-23107 METS62FAN Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:36:36 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=8340#comment-23107 GREGGA, I THOUGHT EVERYONE UNDERSTOOD LIVAN'S GREATEST ASSET WAS NOT W-L; BUT INNINGS EATING & IN DOING SO, BULLPEN RELIEF(WASN'T THAT, PEN, WHAT REALLY BROUGHT US DOWN IN BOTH COLLAPSES?) LIVAN STAYS BECAUSE LEAD OF 4+ ALREADY INSURMOUNTABLE BY THE REPLACEMENTS, BETTER A RESTED PEN Vs MORE EVEN FOE(REDS) THIS WEEKEND. GREGGA, I THOUGHT EVERYONE UNDERSTOOD LIVAN’S GREATEST ASSET WAS NOT W-L; BUT INNINGS EATING & IN DOING SO, BULLPEN RELIEF(WASN’T THAT, PEN, WHAT REALLY BROUGHT US DOWN IN BOTH COLLAPSES?) LIVAN STAYS BECAUSE LEAD OF 4+ ALREADY INSURMOUNTABLE BY THE REPLACEMENTS, BETTER A RESTED PEN Vs MORE EVEN FOE(REDS) THIS WEEKEND.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html#comment-23104 METS62FAN Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:15:18 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=8340#comment-23104 GREGGA, THE DAYS OF PLAYERS GETTING 2-3 YRS OF PURELY DEVELOPMENTAL/INSTRUCTIONAL SEASONING IN THE MINORS WHEN W-L ISN'T BEING COUNTED & INDIV STATS SHOULDN'T MATTER ARE LONG GONE. NOW THER'S BASEBALL AMERICA RANKING THEM, RANKING ORGANIZATIONS, ETC. TODAY YOU'RE LUCKY IF A PLAYER GETS 2 FULL YRS. MANY ARGUE INCREASE IN COLLEGE LEVEL COACHING & PLAY REPLACES THOSE LOST EARLY YEARS; BUT NOT REALLY, CERTAINLY NOT TO EQUAL ORGANIZATIONAL NEEDS. TYR TO RECALL 15 GUYS MISSED JERRY'S FIRST ST. GREGGA, THE DAYS OF PLAYERS GETTING 2-3 YRS OF PURELY DEVELOPMENTAL/INSTRUCTIONAL SEASONING IN THE MINORS WHEN W-L ISN’T BEING COUNTED & INDIV STATS SHOULDN’T MATTER ARE LONG GONE. NOW THER’S BASEBALL AMERICA RANKING THEM, RANKING ORGANIZATIONS, ETC. TODAY YOU’RE LUCKY IF A PLAYER GETS 2 FULL YRS. MANY ARGUE INCREASE IN COLLEGE LEVEL COACHING & PLAY REPLACES THOSE LOST EARLY YEARS; BUT NOT REALLY, CERTAINLY NOT TO EQUAL ORGANIZATIONAL NEEDS. TYR TO RECALL 15 GUYS MISSED JERRY’S FIRST ST.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html#comment-23103 METS62FAN Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:08:13 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=8340#comment-23103 CAPSLOCK=DISABILITY ACCOMODATION DES, YOU'RE IN THE RIGHT CHURCH; BUT THE WONG PEW. IT ISN'T JERRY OR OMAR OR BERNIE MAIDOFF; BUT AN OWNER LIVING IN 1950's NEVERLAND RANCH(IN HIS FANTASY/DREAM/PERFECT WORLD-BKLYN DODGER RECREATION OF LEAGUE CHAMPIONS & LEGEND STATUS SANS BAD PRESS). IT'S MY BELIEF WE'VE A VERY MORALISTIC, BLACK&WHITE (NO GREY) THINKER AS AN OWNER. MORALISTIC? HE FOUGHT AGAINST LUXURY TAX IMPLEMENTATION. ONCE HE LOST THE FIGHT, HE VOWED TO PROVE IT UNNECESSARY, BY WINNING WITHOUT PAYING ANY. HE'S KEPT THAT VOW. NO MAIDOFF NEEDED. THE LINE THIS YEAR IS SET AT $162M. I BELIEVE BASED ON FRED'S TREATMENT OF PHILLIPS & OMAR THAT HE WILL NEVER, EVER CROSS THAT DEMARCATION FOR OWING LUXURY TAXES. HE REMEMBERD FRANK CASHEN'S WARNINGS ABOUT STEVIE AND INSURED HE DIDN'T ACCIDENTLY CROSS THE LINE THROUGH POOR ATTENTION TO DETAILS & POOR TALENT EVALUATION BY PRESETTING A NYM HARD BUDGET WELL SHORT OF WHERE THE TAX LINE WAS(PHILLIPS NEEDED FRED'S PERMISSION ANY TIME HE DESIRED TO CROSS INTYO THE PRESET BUFFER), WITH OMAR HE HAS FULL TRUST & CONFIDENCE ONLY INSTRUCTING HIM TO SPEND WHAT HE NEEDS; BUT NEVER CROSS THE LINE. THIS YEAR THE LINE IS SET AT 162M, OMAR KNEW HE MIGHT NEED TO ACQUIRE A HOLLIDAY OR HALLIDAY AND STOPPED OFFSEASON SPENDING AT $149,373,987 EXACTLY $12,626,013 FROM HIS DROPDEAD LINE. FUNNY THING IS IN 2009 BOTH PLAYERS ARE EARNING 13M. PRORATED BASED ON 7/31 ACQUISITION LESS PLAYERS DEALT AWAY & OMAR COULD PERFECTLY SLIDE EITHER IN WITHOUT EXCEEDING HIS JOB DESCRIPTION. THE PLAN BROKE WHEN THE CORE BROKE. TO CAVE INTO THE MOB BEING IRKED ON BY THE AIRHEADED AIR WAVE RABBLEROUSERS & AQUIRING A DiROSA,HINSKE,DUNN,HUFF INCREMENTAL PIECE WOULD MAKE ACQIRING EITHER OF THOS H'DAY ESSENTIAL PIECES PLANNED FOR TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE, THUS OMAR MUST SIT & TAKE IT. ALLOWING OMAR 1 SEASON TO RECENOITER A FAILING FRANCHISE('04 METS)EXCL THAT I SEASON GRACE PERIOD(2005) OMAR'S RECONFIGURED TEAMS HAVE FINISHED NO WORSE THAN SECOND IN ANY ONE OF THE ENSUING THREE, '06.'07,'08. WHY IS IT SOMEONE HAS TO PAY IN THIS WONDERFUL COUNTRY? IT'S NEVER (UNFORESEEN) CIRCUMSTANCES "BEYOND CONTROL". IS IT SO IMPOSSIBLE TO IMAGINE HUMANITY HAS LIMITATIONS? DID THE CAPT. OF THE INDIANAPOLIS, THE ADMIRAL AT PEARL HARBOR, THE PRESIDENT ON 9/11, THE GM OF THE INJURY PLAGUED 2009 METS ALL NEED SUPER POWERS TO FORESEE THE FUTURE & PREPARE FOR IT BEYOND REASONABLENESS. OMAR'S RESPONSIBILITY IN 2009 WAS TO PUT THE MOST COMPETITIVE TEAM HE COULD MUSTER ON THE BATTLEFIELD WITHOUT SPENDING MORE THAN $162M, I BELIEVE HE'S ACCOMPLISHED THAT, KNOWING WHAT HIS MIDSEASON NEEDS MIGHT BE, WHAT WE ALL COULD SEE A NEED FOR, AN ADDITIONAL BAT(PREFERABLLY RH OUTFIELD) AND A ROTATION UPGRADE(PREFERABLLY FRONT-END #1A OR 2 QUALITY) WERE THERE BETTER BACKUPS TO BE FOUND OUT THERE? LIVAN & REDDING WERE BACKUPS. FACE IT LIVAN WAS INKED TO A $1M MINOR LEAGUE CONTRACT & REDDING AS A L/R BULLPEN OPTION, AT LEAST THEY WERE THERE WHEN NIESE,VARGAS,PARNELL & COMPANY FAILED TO MAKE THE ROTATION GRADE OUT OF ST & WHEN PEREZ LET WBC DERAIL HIS SEASON. WAS CORA EVER SUPPOOSED TO SNIFF A PLAY @ SS? NO, HE WAS CASTILLO REST INSURANCE(MAYBE 1-2 G/WK) OMAR ISN'T ANYONE'S FOOL NOR IS HE PERFECT OR INFALIBLE, AS FANS, EVERYONE COULD SEE THE MOST LIKELY INJURY WEAKNESS FOR THE TEAM THAT BROKE CAMP WAS THE OUTFIELD, OMAR STUFFED THE STORAGE CLOSET(BUFFALO) WITH AS MANY FORMER MAJOR LEAGUERS(BOBBY KIELTY,CORY SULLIVAN,WILLY MO PENA,EMIL BROWN) AS POSSIBLE SAME WITH INFIELD POSSIBILITIES(ANDY GREEN,MIKE LAMB,JAVIER VALENTIN) EVEN WITH ALL THAT PREP AND WITH SO MUCH GOING TO 'THE CORE' 162M CERTAINLY DOESN'T SPREAD AS FAR. HELL, EVEN BY SPENDING THE 'SKY' THE NYY COULD DO NO BETTER THAN CODY RANSOM(.177) @ 3B FOR A-FREUD. DES, IS NO ONE TO BLAME IN MY OPINION? NO! I'D LIKELY LOOK VERY DEEP & BLAME OBERKFELL,BERNAZARD,JEFF WILPON,baseball gods FOR OUR CURRENT LEVEL OF DISATISFACION FOR THESE REASONS: OBERKFELL: FOR NOT HAVING DONE MORE IN GETTING HIS CHARFGES READY TO PLAY AT THEIR TOP ABILITIES, CONSIDERING HE WAS ASSIGNED A 'GNATS' LEVEL ROSTER FOR AAA BATTLE J. WILPON: SO MANY REASONS; BUT MOSTLY AS SNY EXEC HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR TEAM PERCEPTION (MEDIA MARKETING) BERNAZARD: AS VP OF [PLAYER DEVELOPMENT HE HAS DELIBERATLY CHOSEN TO ASSIGN THE BETTER PEROSPECTS TO LEVELS BEYOND THEIR CURRENT ABILITIES. HIS REASON IS TO TEMPRER THEIR TALENT WITH STRUGGLES SO THEY FINISH STRONGER & MORE MATURE (GREAT IDEA IF YR KEEPING- BAD IDEA IF YR DEALING) THIS TREATMENT DEVALUES THE ASSETS OF MILB BY DECREASING THEIR PRODUCTION NUMBERS MAKING THEM LOOK WORSE THAN THEIR TALENT LEVEL SHOULD SHOW, THUS WE HAVE A PELFREY WHO'S STRUGGLED WITH BIG CLUB & AN F-MART WHO'S ASSIGNED TO AAA AT AGE 20 WHEN SO MANY PREP GAMES WERE ROBBED BY INJURY IN LOWER LEVELS. GOMEZ WAS HAMPERED MUCH THE SAME WAY, SO IS NIESE. baseball gods - OBVIOUSLY CHOOSING TO EXACT THEIR PRICE FOR PREVIOUS HEALTHY POSITIONAL SEASONS BY STRIKING TOO MANY ALL AT ONCE REDUCING A FORMERLY CONTENDER ROSTER TO THAT OF A STRIKE BREAKER ROSTER OF SCABS.(WHERE'S RICK REED WHEN WE NEED HIM MOST) gods HURT US WITH ROTATION PITCHING(PEDRO/DUQUE) INJURIES RIGHT BEFORE THE PLAYOFFS IN '06,SHAKEY ROTATION RECOVERIES IN '07 & '08(SAME CULPRITS) & DECIMATED THE LINEUP IN '09. THE gods must be CRAZY!!! OR PISSED OFF AT US STILL WISH TO POINT OUT "NO HIGH PROSPECTS?" SEE MY PRIOR POSTINGS ON EFFECT OF PITCHING GM(GURU) PETERSON & BARREN MINORS INHERITED BY OMAR.ALONG WITH A 4th PLACE(.438 WIN%) TEAM. BUILDING BOTH MAJORS & MINORS WHILE RESTRICTED BY DRAFT-BONUS GUIDELINES+LUXURY TAX RESTICTIONS SIMULTANEOUSLY IS IMPOSSIBLE. MAJOR LEAGUE LEVEL PAYS THE FREIGFHT & GETS THE PRIORITY! CAPSLOCK=DISABILITY ACCOMODATION
DES, YOU’RE IN THE RIGHT CHURCH; BUT THE WONG PEW.

IT ISN’T JERRY OR OMAR OR BERNIE MAIDOFF; BUT AN OWNER LIVING IN 1950′s NEVERLAND RANCH(IN HIS FANTASY/DREAM/PERFECT WORLD-BKLYN DODGER RECREATION OF LEAGUE CHAMPIONS & LEGEND STATUS SANS BAD PRESS). IT’S MY BELIEF WE’VE A VERY MORALISTIC, BLACK&WHITE (NO GREY) THINKER AS AN OWNER. MORALISTIC? HE FOUGHT AGAINST LUXURY TAX IMPLEMENTATION. ONCE HE LOST THE FIGHT, HE VOWED TO PROVE IT UNNECESSARY, BY WINNING WITHOUT PAYING ANY. HE’S KEPT THAT VOW. NO MAIDOFF NEEDED. THE LINE THIS YEAR IS SET AT $162M. I BELIEVE BASED ON FRED’S TREATMENT OF PHILLIPS & OMAR THAT HE WILL NEVER, EVER CROSS THAT DEMARCATION FOR OWING LUXURY TAXES. HE REMEMBERD FRANK CASHEN’S WARNINGS ABOUT STEVIE AND INSURED HE DIDN’T ACCIDENTLY CROSS THE LINE THROUGH POOR ATTENTION TO DETAILS & POOR TALENT EVALUATION BY PRESETTING A NYM HARD BUDGET WELL SHORT OF WHERE THE TAX LINE WAS(PHILLIPS NEEDED FRED’S PERMISSION ANY TIME HE DESIRED TO CROSS INTYO THE PRESET BUFFER), WITH OMAR HE HAS FULL TRUST & CONFIDENCE ONLY INSTRUCTING HIM TO SPEND WHAT HE NEEDS; BUT NEVER CROSS THE LINE. THIS YEAR THE LINE IS SET AT 162M, OMAR KNEW HE MIGHT NEED TO ACQUIRE A HOLLIDAY OR HALLIDAY AND STOPPED OFFSEASON SPENDING AT $149,373,987 EXACTLY $12,626,013 FROM HIS DROPDEAD LINE. FUNNY THING IS IN 2009 BOTH PLAYERS ARE EARNING 13M. PRORATED BASED ON 7/31 ACQUISITION LESS PLAYERS DEALT AWAY & OMAR COULD PERFECTLY SLIDE EITHER IN WITHOUT EXCEEDING HIS JOB DESCRIPTION.
THE PLAN BROKE WHEN THE CORE BROKE. TO CAVE INTO THE MOB BEING IRKED ON BY THE AIRHEADED AIR WAVE RABBLEROUSERS & AQUIRING A DiROSA,HINSKE,DUNN,HUFF INCREMENTAL PIECE WOULD MAKE ACQIRING EITHER OF THOS H’DAY ESSENTIAL PIECES PLANNED FOR TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE, THUS OMAR MUST SIT & TAKE IT. ALLOWING OMAR 1 SEASON TO RECENOITER A FAILING FRANCHISE(’04 METS)EXCL THAT I SEASON GRACE PERIOD(2005) OMAR’S RECONFIGURED TEAMS HAVE FINISHED NO WORSE THAN SECOND IN ANY ONE OF THE ENSUING THREE, ’06.’07,’08. WHY IS IT SOMEONE HAS TO PAY IN THIS WONDERFUL COUNTRY? IT’S NEVER (UNFORESEEN) CIRCUMSTANCES “BEYOND CONTROL”. IS IT SO IMPOSSIBLE TO IMAGINE HUMANITY HAS LIMITATIONS? DID THE CAPT. OF THE INDIANAPOLIS, THE ADMIRAL AT PEARL HARBOR, THE PRESIDENT ON 9/11, THE GM OF THE INJURY PLAGUED 2009 METS ALL NEED SUPER POWERS TO FORESEE THE FUTURE & PREPARE FOR IT BEYOND REASONABLENESS. OMAR’S RESPONSIBILITY IN 2009 WAS TO PUT THE MOST COMPETITIVE TEAM HE COULD MUSTER ON THE BATTLEFIELD WITHOUT SPENDING MORE THAN $162M, I BELIEVE HE’S ACCOMPLISHED THAT, KNOWING WHAT HIS MIDSEASON NEEDS MIGHT BE, WHAT WE ALL COULD SEE A NEED FOR, AN ADDITIONAL BAT(PREFERABLLY RH OUTFIELD) AND A ROTATION UPGRADE(PREFERABLLY FRONT-END #1A OR 2 QUALITY) WERE THERE BETTER BACKUPS TO BE FOUND OUT THERE? LIVAN & REDDING WERE BACKUPS. FACE IT LIVAN WAS INKED TO A $1M MINOR LEAGUE CONTRACT & REDDING AS A L/R BULLPEN OPTION, AT LEAST THEY WERE THERE WHEN NIESE,VARGAS,PARNELL & COMPANY FAILED TO MAKE THE ROTATION GRADE OUT OF ST & WHEN PEREZ LET WBC DERAIL HIS SEASON. WAS CORA EVER SUPPOOSED TO SNIFF A PLAY @ SS? NO, HE WAS CASTILLO REST INSURANCE(MAYBE 1-2 G/WK) OMAR ISN’T ANYONE’S FOOL NOR IS HE PERFECT OR INFALIBLE, AS FANS, EVERYONE COULD SEE THE MOST LIKELY INJURY WEAKNESS FOR THE TEAM THAT BROKE CAMP WAS THE OUTFIELD, OMAR STUFFED THE STORAGE CLOSET(BUFFALO) WITH AS MANY FORMER MAJOR LEAGUERS(BOBBY KIELTY,CORY SULLIVAN,WILLY MO PENA,EMIL BROWN) AS POSSIBLE SAME WITH INFIELD POSSIBILITIES(ANDY GREEN,MIKE LAMB,JAVIER VALENTIN) EVEN WITH ALL THAT PREP AND WITH SO MUCH GOING TO ‘THE CORE’ 162M CERTAINLY DOESN’T SPREAD AS FAR. HELL, EVEN BY SPENDING THE ‘SKY’ THE NYY COULD DO NO BETTER THAN CODY RANSOM(.177) @ 3B FOR A-FREUD.

DES, IS NO ONE TO BLAME IN MY OPINION? NO! I’D LIKELY LOOK VERY DEEP & BLAME OBERKFELL,BERNAZARD,JEFF WILPON,baseball gods FOR OUR CURRENT LEVEL OF DISATISFACION FOR THESE REASONS:
OBERKFELL: FOR NOT HAVING DONE MORE IN GETTING HIS CHARFGES READY TO PLAY AT THEIR TOP ABILITIES, CONSIDERING HE WAS ASSIGNED A ‘GNATS’ LEVEL ROSTER FOR AAA BATTLE
J. WILPON: SO MANY REASONS; BUT MOSTLY AS SNY EXEC HE’S RESPONSIBLE FOR TEAM PERCEPTION (MEDIA MARKETING)
BERNAZARD: AS VP OF [PLAYER DEVELOPMENT HE HAS DELIBERATLY CHOSEN TO ASSIGN THE BETTER PEROSPECTS TO LEVELS BEYOND THEIR CURRENT ABILITIES. HIS REASON IS TO TEMPRER THEIR TALENT WITH STRUGGLES SO THEY FINISH STRONGER & MORE MATURE (GREAT IDEA IF YR KEEPING- BAD IDEA IF YR DEALING) THIS TREATMENT DEVALUES THE ASSETS OF MILB BY DECREASING THEIR PRODUCTION NUMBERS MAKING THEM LOOK WORSE THAN THEIR TALENT LEVEL SHOULD SHOW, THUS WE HAVE A PELFREY WHO’S STRUGGLED WITH BIG CLUB & AN F-MART WHO’S ASSIGNED TO AAA AT AGE 20 WHEN SO MANY PREP GAMES WERE ROBBED BY INJURY IN LOWER LEVELS. GOMEZ WAS HAMPERED MUCH THE SAME WAY, SO IS NIESE.
baseball gods – OBVIOUSLY CHOOSING TO EXACT THEIR PRICE FOR PREVIOUS HEALTHY POSITIONAL SEASONS BY STRIKING TOO MANY ALL AT ONCE REDUCING A FORMERLY CONTENDER ROSTER TO THAT OF A STRIKE BREAKER ROSTER OF SCABS.(WHERE’S RICK REED WHEN WE NEED HIM MOST) gods HURT US WITH ROTATION PITCHING(PEDRO/DUQUE) INJURIES RIGHT BEFORE THE PLAYOFFS IN ’06,SHAKEY ROTATION RECOVERIES IN ’07 & ’08(SAME CULPRITS) & DECIMATED THE LINEUP IN ’09. THE gods must be CRAZY!!! OR PISSED OFF AT US

STILL WISH TO POINT OUT “NO HIGH PROSPECTS?” SEE MY PRIOR POSTINGS ON EFFECT OF PITCHING GM(GURU) PETERSON & BARREN MINORS INHERITED BY OMAR.ALONG WITH A 4th PLACE(.438 WIN%) TEAM. BUILDING BOTH MAJORS & MINORS WHILE RESTRICTED BY DRAFT-BONUS GUIDELINES+LUXURY TAX RESTICTIONS SIMULTANEOUSLY IS IMPOSSIBLE. MAJOR LEAGUE LEVEL PAYS THE FREIGFHT & GETS THE PRIORITY!

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html#comment-23101 theonlymaskman Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:44:13 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=8340#comment-23101 Very good points made in the article and the comments as well. Omar's lethargy in not backing up injured players in a meaningful way is irresponsible. Jerry is full of bad decisions and the lack of defense reflects badly on him. An overall bad situation and bad performance which needs to be rectified. Unfortunately the Wilpons apparently supply no leadership or direction of any meaningful value. The current administration is as bad as any of the worst ones in the past. The Mets are currently in a very bad down cycle. It will take something extreme to snap out of it. Selling the team seems to be the best option. Very good points made in the article and the comments as well. Omar’s lethargy in not backing up injured players in a meaningful way is irresponsible. Jerry is full of bad decisions and the lack of defense reflects badly on him. An overall bad situation and bad performance which needs to be rectified. Unfortunately the Wilpons apparently supply no leadership or direction of any meaningful value. The current administration is as bad as any of the worst ones in the past. The Mets are currently in a very bad down cycle. It will take something extreme to snap out of it. Selling the team seems to be the best option.

]]> By: Lifelongmetsfan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html#comment-23095 Lifelongmetsfan Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:56:50 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=8340#comment-23095 The fact of the matter is that the Met organization has made a decision it seems to ride out the injuries with what we have. Shrugs... It's not like the owners have said, "Win this year Omar." and Omar is just sitting around doing nothing because he chooses too. It's frustrating as hell! I caught a scroll on the bottom of the tv screen very early this am as I was heading out that Fernando Martinez had been placed on the diabled list. For his knee I am guessing but ... why now and not last week? Does anyone have anymore info on the Martinez injury? What do the Met Doctors do exam a Met player and say something like......"well. hmmm. hurts here ehhh...Well, lets wait a week and see if it get better." I just don't understand. The team invests so much money in these players and seems to be so cavalier about the treatment hurting players are given. It's puzzling to me. The fact of the matter is that the Met organization has made a decision it seems to ride out the injuries with what we have. Shrugs…
It’s not like the owners have said, “Win this year Omar.” and Omar is just sitting around doing nothing because he chooses too.
It’s frustrating as hell! I caught a scroll on the bottom of the tv screen very early this am as I was heading out that Fernando Martinez had been placed on the diabled list. For his knee I am guessing but … why now and not last week? Does anyone have anymore info on the Martinez injury? What do the Met Doctors do exam a Met player and say something like……”well. hmmm. hurts here ehhh…Well, lets wait a week and see if it get better.” I just don’t understand. The team invests so much money in these players and seems to be so cavalier about the treatment hurting players are given. It’s puzzling to me.

]]> By: gregga19 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html#comment-23094 gregga19 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:12:56 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=8340#comment-23094 The problem here, is like in the past two years, the Mets have been very slow to react to situations. Omar & Jerry should both probably go. Omar for his slow reaction time, and Jerry for his dumb decisions and inappropriate comments about play .500 baseball. Jerry, more than anyone else also need to be held accountable for the team's poor play on defense.These guys although not superstars, are pros and should be able to play basic baseball. The problem here, is like in the past two years, the Mets have been very slow to react to situations. Omar & Jerry should both probably go. Omar for his slow reaction time, and Jerry for his dumb decisions and inappropriate comments about play .500 baseball. Jerry, more than anyone else also need to be held accountable for the team’s poor play on defense.These guys although not superstars, are pros and should be able to play basic baseball.

]]> By: gregga19 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html#comment-23093 gregga19 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:10:14 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=8340#comment-23093 Russell I agree with you 1000%. I couldn't have written this better myself. So many great points: 1-Like you, with the Mets playing so poorly I'm getting to know my kids again, and like you I still foolish sneak peeks to see if they have mounted a comeback. 2-You comments about Jman being a good decent guy who makes poor decisions is spot on. 3-I would rather watch Murph/Evans at first than Tatis. Time to release the bum. 4-Livan should not have been left in that long, it was obvious he didn't have it. Excellent post, I agree totally!! Russell I agree with you 1000%. I couldn’t have written this better myself. So many great points:
1-Like you, with the Mets playing so poorly I’m getting to know my kids again, and like you I still foolish sneak peeks to see if they have mounted a comeback.
2-You comments about Jman being a good decent guy who makes poor decisions is spot on.
3-I would rather watch Murph/Evans at first than Tatis. Time to release the bum.
4-Livan should not have been left in that long, it was obvious he didn’t have it.
Excellent post, I agree totally!!

]]> By: TheWrightWay http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html#comment-23092 TheWrightWay Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:57:45 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=8340#comment-23092 This is so stupid, the Mets lose all of there decent players other than Wright, and they tank (as they should) and fall to fourth place, which is not that bad this year, are what? only 5 games out? And then these "intelligent" baseball fans start calling for Manual's head, why did you have any more hope last night than 2 nights before? 1 win? This is so stupid, the Mets lose all of there decent players other than Wright, and they tank (as they should) and fall to fourth place, which is not that bad this year, are what? only 5 games out? And then these “intelligent” baseball fans start calling for Manual’s head, why did you have any more hope last night than 2 nights before? 1 win?

]]> By: Des http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/07/more-shame-and-wrong-moves-time-to-fire-manuel.html#comment-23090 Des Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:03:16 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=8340#comment-23090 It's Omar, not Jerry that is the prime cause of the Mets problems! The above 'statement is fair, accurate and timely if we want to not hold the Wilpons accountable for investing with Uncle Bernie Madoff (the real prime cause). It’s Omar, not Jerry that is the prime cause of the Mets problems!

The above ‘statement is fair, accurate and timely if we want to not hold the Wilpons accountable for investing with Uncle Bernie Madoff (the real prime cause).

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