Comments on: Angel Pagan Is Earning His Wings

By: Rachel

Rachel — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:34:48 +0000

If he can stay healthy I believe he can be an everyday player maybe left field. He reminds me of Moises Alou~ good player and hitter but couldn’t stay healthy. Too bad. I have never heard anything about him being difficult and if its true I am glad that he grew up and learned to appreciate his opportunites.

By: Dave

Dave — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:15:30 +0000

Angel Pagan has recently become one of my favorites. Keep it going Pagan!

By: Ed Leyro

Ed Leyro — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:53:50 +0000

Thank you to everyone for keeping the discussion going. I hope the Citi Field fans give Pagan a rousing ovation when he is introduced tonight. If he continues playing like this, the Mets might not feel like they have to rush Beltran back. Also, when Beltran does return, I wouldn’t mind seeing a Pagan/Beltran/Francoeur outfield. Beltran finally won’t have to try to catch everything himself. His flankers will be doing their share as well.

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Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:04:13 +0000

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By: mary

mary — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:57:48 +0000

Pagan is just the kind of player this team needs, I am so lad he came back healthy this year. He always gives 110% all the time and his knack for hitting triples sure isn’t bad either. In case anybody could forget the reason he was out most of last season was because he made a spectacular play at Dodger stadium, certainly a web-gem for the year.

By: dogman

dogman — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:17:57 +0000

karen- i’m a believer in grass roots organizing. i think if a whole lot of Angel Pagan fans demonstrated their APPRECIATION…for his efforts (two years running) and his POTENTIAL (he’s batting average for his efforts is right up there) with banners, with calls…in short,
the kind of thing that gets management’s attention…then,
maybe this guy gets the chance for regular duty. i want to believe there are a whole lot of quiet, discerning fans who see an authentic upside to Angel’s becoming a very regular part of the scenery. it’s the voluble, free agent fanatics who always scream for mega stars and salaries. let’s start an Angel appreciation banner day…or something. it’s a win-win don’tcha think?

By: dogman

dogman — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:16:39 +0000

karen- i’m a believer in grass roots organizing. i think if a whole lot of Angel Pagan fans demonstrated their APPRECIATION…for his efforts (two years running) and his POTENTIAL (he’s batting average for his efforts is right up there) with banners, with calls…in short,
the kind of thing that gets management’s attention…then,
maybe this guy gets the chance for regular duty. i want to believe there are not a whole lot of quiet, discerning fans who see an authentic upside to Angel’s becoming a regular part of the scenery. it’s the voluble, free agent fanatics who always scream for mega stars and salaries. let’s start an Angel appreciation banner day…or something. it’s a win-win don’tcha think?

By: Karen

Karen — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:22:19 +0000

This post is such a breath of fresh air, thank you for writing it. I am so upset right now because of all this Mets bashing going on with certain players. This post put me in a better mood. I wish the comments on the posts on this site were as positive as the posts. I wrote in another posts about how amazing Pagan has been and how he together with Francore have revitalized this team. I feel bad that Angel will go to the bench once we get healthy, because his positive attitude and gritty play was something this team really needed.

By: dogman

dogman — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:26:34 +0000

alright, Tommy2! i think we both have 20-20 vision and graduate degrees in common sense.

By: dogman

dogman — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:23:49 +0000

sorry for my redundancy…i thought i had been edited for using
the lord’s name in vain.

go Angel!

By: blue & orange ny

blue & orange ny — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:21:36 +0000

I agree Rachel, I’m afraid of the following….but he is doing great hopefully harm will stay away from him

By: dogman

dogman — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:18:24 +0000

Angel Pagan can be a key integral asset to the met lineup if he is allowed to stay in the lineup. period. he puts his body on the line and has paid the price on the DL. does that make him injury prone or
unlucky? i say unlucky.

clubhouse doghouse? absurd, unfounded and not worthy of speculation.
stop the sniping.

keep him as a regular and let him show his stuff – day in and day out.
only then can you get a full picture of the man.
he has more than earned it.

By: Lifelongmetsfan

Lifelongmetsfan — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:45:46 +0000

Mykey,
No I missed the game yesterday sorry I missed Kevin B.’s comments on Pagan. I did however hear a Met broadcast last year during which Howie Rose gave up some details re: Pagan’s poor work ethic rep. and very stubborn to accept feedback on his game. I remember him making the connection between Endy Chavez during his Phillie days and Pagan’s minor league days with the Mets and his stint in Chicago.
Lets hope those days and that attitude is truly behind him and Pagan continues to blossom! However, as I stated in my above post I still concerned about pagan’s attitude. Remember the fly ball incident in which Pagan playing LF failed to give way to Beltran resulting in a droppped fly ball. Beltran very vocal about Pagan’s behavior on the play. You know that if Beltran is calling out a player in public there HAS to be more “stuff” going on behind the scenes.
I am rooting for Pagan!

By: Lifelongmetsfan

Lifelongmetsfan — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:21:07 +0000

As an irresponsible blogger who comments on other blogger’s half truths, speculation and rumors it would be irresponsible for me to actually make sure that the comments I post are facts. really?! The nerve of some people, demanding that pseudo journalist wanna-bees comment responsibly?! WOw What did that guy have for breakfast this morning?

By: Colonel_Kurtz

Colonel_Kurtz — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:35:53 +0000

Like everyone else, I have just one issue with Pagan; Health. Other than that, this guy is great. His defense is clearly there. He doesn’t hit the longball, but hitting it in the gaps will get him the doubles and triples he needs to get some RBIS or runs scored. Oh and he steals too.

By: Tommy2cat

Tommy2cat — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:34:59 +0000

Dogman, I agree with everything you said, except his first name is “Angel” and not “Jesus”.

Contingent upon good health, I am fine with an outfield of Pagan, Beltran & Francouer. I think Reyes and Pagan at the top of the order would create havoc for any opponent.

Victor Martinez would be a very nice addition to this roster, as he can catch and play first base. Xavier Nady would also be a healthy addition, because he can play outfield and infield. Both have power.

In today’s game, I think more in terms of rotation, with a couple of fixtures. An outfield rotation of Pagan, Beltran & Francouer, supported by Nady and Sullivan. Let F-Mart develop at his own pace.

For the infield, Wright, Reyes, Castillo, Victor Martinez & Daniel Murphy offers solid defense, power and speed – they are all good hitters. Players such as Alex Cora & Omir Santos can spell the reguluars while youngsters such as Rueben Tejada, Ike Davis & Nick Evans & Josh Thole can grow into supporting roles.

Build from within, and when a key addition becomes available, spend your money wisely.

By: dogman

dogman — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:05:42 +0000

until such allegations are proven fact–i think it’s absurd to
speculate about Angel’s clubhouse manner. JESUS! do you some of you
have nothing better to do than fan a specious flame? Pagan has done
everything the team has asked of him over two years. he gives it everything he had and only the injuries (due to all out effort) have put him in a kind of los mets purgatory. it’s clear i love the guy–and want to see him out there everyday. add reyes to the equation and
it’s a no brainer with regard to speed on the basepaths.
should beltran return – put Angel back in left and stop complaining.
players with all the tools need to play regularly. it’s that simple. only then can you tell who they really are,.

By: Mykey

Mykey — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:45:24 +0000

Well, if you listened to Kevin Burkhardt during the game yesterday, he said he spoke to Pagan before the game yesterday. Basically, Pagan said that at 28, he is finally starting to realize what he needs to do to be successful at this level, citing his stretching program, and also talking to other players about his game. He also said that he watches game tapes more now then ever before. So maybe he was “difficult” as you said (although I never heard that about him before), but it seams like he as grown up and could be a very good 4th OF for this team going into next season.

By: Lifelongmetsfan

Lifelongmetsfan — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:54:47 +0000

I agree, I have always liked this guy. Obviously the Mets like Pagan to; signed him, developed him then got him back from the Cubs.
Two things about him though
1. Injury prone
2. Is he difficult? Not a great clubhouse guy?
If Pagan can accept being a 4th outfielder and stays committed to improving his game and “preventive maintenance” Fluids. limiting caffeine intake, stretching, etc etc. I think we may possibly have the best 4th outfielder in MLB in a few years.
I get the impression from reading article and hearing Met announcers that Pagan is a very gifted natural athlete who has been lees then committed to actively improving his game.
Has anyone else heard or read anyhting along these smae line regarding Pagan?

By: Sean T.

Sean T. — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:37:56 +0000

Pagan has been a Godsend, he’s pretty much doing it all.
Frenchy has been doing his job as well.
When Beltran gets back, I would say that makes for a solid outfield.