Comments on: Is The Mets Organization Falling Apart? http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:16:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html#comment-22517 theonlymaskman Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:30:07 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=7725#comment-22517 We're talking about THIS year. Livan has been one of the relatively solid pieces in a dismal year. You can't get rid of him NOW. Certainly you don't look for Livan to be solid much beyond this year, so he is not part of the LONG-TERM picture. But he is very much part of this year because given the sad state of the ship, we actually need him NOW. We’re talking about THIS year. Livan has been one of the relatively solid pieces in a dismal year. You can’t get rid of him NOW. Certainly you don’t look for Livan to be solid much beyond this year, so he is not part of the LONG-TERM picture. But he is very much part of this year because given the sad state of the ship, we actually need him NOW.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html#comment-22516 METS62FAN Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:08:13 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=7725#comment-22516 CAPSLOCK=DISABILITY ACCOMODATION ABSOLUTLY RIGHT! THERE IS A "DIRTY LITTLE SECRET" THAT ISN'T MUCH OF A SECRET TO THOSE OF US THAT REMEMBER BACK TO THE INCEPTION OF THE LUXURY TAX PROGRAM BY MLB. BOTH GEORGE STEINBRENNER & FRED WILPON WERE ALLIES, PERHAPS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN TRYING TO DEFEAT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS SOCIALIST CONCEPT BY A COMMISSIONER BARELY REMOVED FROM OWNERSHIP OF A POTENTIAL LARGE BENEFICIARY OF THE LUXURY TAX PENALTY SCHEME. AFTER PASSAGE THE ANGRY, DISHEARTENED OPPONENTS VOWED TO MAKE THE TAX IMPOTENT IN 2 DIFFERENT WAYS. GEORGE VOWED TO IGNORE IT & CONTINUE BUSINESS AS USUAL. FRED VOWED TO NEVER PAY A DIME OF IT BY STEADFASTLY RESTRICTING PAYROLL TO BELOW PENALTY LEVEL. THIS IS THE REAL CAUSE FOR NO MANNY, NO HELP. NOT BERNIE MADOFF. HERE'S THE DEAL: REYES,BELTRAN,DELGADO ARE MIA. OMAR'S CURRENT PAYROLL OF $149M IS 12M UNDER THE LUXURY LINE. THIS BUFFER WAS LEFT, MOST LIKELY TO SUPPLEMENYT THE ROTATION WITH A STRONG #2 SP. STAYING WITHIN 12M WILL SUPPLY 1 BAT AND WILL COST THE MAJORITY OF HIGHER DEVELOPED PROSPECTS IN OUR BELEAGUERED FRANCHISE (F-MART,PARNELL,NEISE,HOLT,GEE,MURPHY,EVANS) AND 1 BAT IS UNLIKELY TO "FIX" ANYTHING. WITH ONE SHOT AT ADDING TO THE ROSTER. WHO DO YOU ADD? NOT HOLIDAY('09 SALARY = 13.5M) DUNN & HUFF ARE BOTH @ 8M. LACK OF PROSPECTS GOES WAY BACK TO PHILLIPS' REGIME. UNWILLINGNESS TO ASSUME ANY $ALARY NEGATED DUQUETTE'S ABILITY TO RESTOCK WITH TOP PROSPECTS WHEN CLEANING HOUSE OF AGED VETS,(VENTURA,ZEILLE,BURNITZ,BENITEZ,ALOU).SIGNING FREE AGENTS, PEDRO,BELTRAN,WAGNER,K-ROD COSTS FIRST OR SECOND ROUND PICKS,NYY & BOSOX ARE IGNORING COMMISSIONER'S RECOMMENDATION NOT TO PAY FIRST ROUND LEVEL BONUSES TO DRAFT PICKS CHOSEN LATER, FRED INSISTS ON FOLLOWING SLOTTING GUIDELINES, NO THE PROBLEM IS NOT NEW & NOT OMAR; BUT WHY IS THERE NO DISCLOSURE OR EXPOSE' FROM JOURNALISTIC DETRACTORS? JUST YESTERDAY I CASTIHGATED JOHN HARPER(NY DAILY SNOOZE) & KEVIN KEARNAN (NY JOKE)FOR JUST THIS OMISSION OF FACT. NO PROBLEM IF YOU'RE DISGUSTED WITH THE PROBLEMS; BUT AT LEAST FIND THE RIGHT TARGETS BEFORE YOU 'FIRE!". DON'T FORGET JEFF'S PERSONAL HIRING OF PETERSON AS THE FRANCHISE'S "PITCHING CZAR" RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL DECISIONS RE. PITCHING INCL ALL MILB COACHES & ENTIRE PITCHING ROSTER OF MINORS & MAJORS. MOST OF U CASTIGATE OMAr for PERCEIVED 'BAD' DEALS. VERY FEW OF YOU SITE DEALS OF POSITION PLAYERS, MOST INVOLVE PITCHING RELATED DEPARTURES OF KAZMIR,LINDSTRUM,BELL,OWENS,RING,BANNISTER, ETC. WHAT DO ALL THESE NAMES HAVE IN COMMON OTHER THAN PITCHING?? THEY WERE ALL RELUCTANT TO BE MOLDED INTO THE PETERSON MODEL PITCHING STYLE. VOILA! PERHAPS THE TRUE ANSWER WHY HE ACCOMPANIED WILLIE OUT THE DOOR. CAPSLOCK=DISABILITY ACCOMODATION
ABSOLUTLY RIGHT! THERE IS A “DIRTY LITTLE SECRET” THAT ISN’T MUCH OF A SECRET TO THOSE OF US THAT REMEMBER BACK TO THE INCEPTION OF THE LUXURY TAX PROGRAM BY MLB. BOTH GEORGE STEINBRENNER & FRED WILPON WERE ALLIES, PERHAPS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN TRYING TO DEFEAT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS SOCIALIST CONCEPT BY A COMMISSIONER BARELY REMOVED FROM OWNERSHIP OF A POTENTIAL LARGE BENEFICIARY OF THE LUXURY TAX PENALTY SCHEME. AFTER PASSAGE THE ANGRY, DISHEARTENED OPPONENTS VOWED TO MAKE THE TAX IMPOTENT IN 2 DIFFERENT WAYS. GEORGE VOWED TO IGNORE IT & CONTINUE BUSINESS AS USUAL. FRED VOWED TO NEVER PAY A DIME OF IT BY STEADFASTLY RESTRICTING PAYROLL TO BELOW PENALTY LEVEL. THIS IS THE REAL CAUSE FOR NO MANNY, NO HELP. NOT BERNIE MADOFF.
HERE’S THE DEAL: REYES,BELTRAN,DELGADO ARE MIA.
OMAR’S CURRENT PAYROLL OF $149M IS 12M UNDER THE LUXURY LINE. THIS BUFFER WAS LEFT, MOST LIKELY TO SUPPLEMENYT THE ROTATION WITH A STRONG #2 SP. STAYING WITHIN 12M WILL SUPPLY 1 BAT AND WILL COST THE MAJORITY OF HIGHER DEVELOPED PROSPECTS IN OUR BELEAGUERED FRANCHISE (F-MART,PARNELL,NEISE,HOLT,GEE,MURPHY,EVANS) AND 1 BAT IS UNLIKELY TO “FIX” ANYTHING. WITH ONE SHOT AT ADDING TO THE ROSTER. WHO DO YOU ADD? NOT HOLIDAY(’09 SALARY = 13.5M) DUNN & HUFF ARE BOTH @ 8M. LACK OF PROSPECTS GOES WAY BACK TO PHILLIPS’ REGIME. UNWILLINGNESS TO ASSUME ANY $ALARY NEGATED DUQUETTE’S ABILITY TO RESTOCK WITH TOP PROSPECTS WHEN CLEANING HOUSE OF AGED VETS,(VENTURA,ZEILLE,BURNITZ,BENITEZ,ALOU).SIGNING FREE AGENTS, PEDRO,BELTRAN,WAGNER,K-ROD COSTS FIRST OR SECOND ROUND PICKS,NYY & BOSOX ARE IGNORING COMMISSIONER’S RECOMMENDATION NOT TO PAY FIRST ROUND LEVEL BONUSES TO DRAFT PICKS CHOSEN LATER, FRED INSISTS ON FOLLOWING SLOTTING GUIDELINES, NO THE PROBLEM IS NOT NEW & NOT OMAR; BUT WHY IS THERE NO DISCLOSURE OR EXPOSE’ FROM JOURNALISTIC DETRACTORS? JUST YESTERDAY I CASTIHGATED JOHN HARPER(NY DAILY SNOOZE) & KEVIN KEARNAN (NY JOKE)FOR JUST THIS OMISSION OF FACT.
NO PROBLEM IF YOU’RE DISGUSTED WITH THE PROBLEMS; BUT AT LEAST FIND THE RIGHT TARGETS BEFORE YOU ‘FIRE!”. DON’T FORGET JEFF’S PERSONAL HIRING OF PETERSON AS THE FRANCHISE’S “PITCHING CZAR” RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL DECISIONS RE. PITCHING INCL ALL MILB COACHES & ENTIRE PITCHING ROSTER OF MINORS & MAJORS. MOST OF U CASTIGATE OMAr for PERCEIVED ‘BAD’ DEALS. VERY FEW OF YOU SITE DEALS OF POSITION PLAYERS, MOST INVOLVE PITCHING RELATED DEPARTURES OF KAZMIR,LINDSTRUM,BELL,OWENS,RING,BANNISTER, ETC. WHAT DO ALL THESE NAMES HAVE IN COMMON OTHER THAN PITCHING?? THEY WERE ALL RELUCTANT TO BE MOLDED INTO THE PETERSON MODEL PITCHING STYLE. VOILA! PERHAPS THE TRUE ANSWER WHY HE ACCOMPANIED WILLIE OUT THE DOOR.

]]> By: sarge http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html#comment-22505 sarge Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:13:07 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=7725#comment-22505 I agree that the medical opinions offered by the mgmt of this team are a joke esp since they have no med exp and can not be guessing that a player will be back whenever. I see the call for a trade but at what cost? A 3 month rental, Holiday, DeRosa, both of whom maybe together could not get us out of the power shortage we are in. Holiday would be lost at Citi and would not return next yr plus if his stats go down cause of Citi then our compensation for him leaving will be nothing. All I am asking from this team is that they play good def, work the counts, run the bases smartly, hit and run, etc. The problem we have is that you have so many vets that are not regulars playing causing defensive problems on ground balls and fly balls. These guys need to be on bench but then who would play. You cannot trade what good gems, Holt, Mejia, Flores, Gee, for a temp solution cause everyone is upset that our team is ravajed by injuries and only think about this season w/o seeing what our future is going to be. We can, next year start bringing up some of those prospect to AAA, get them seasoned and have a good foundation to partner with Reyes, Wright, Beltran, K-Rod, Santana, Pelfrey,etc. This season sucks so far but only 1/2 of the schedule is over and as we have seen in the past, Rockies, Phillies, Dodgers, Cards in 06, you can make a run come August and Sep. Remember the 69 and 73 Mets and how they finished up to take the division and go on to WS! This division, NL East, is bad this year and Phillies, unless they get a top of rotation starter will not break away from pack and Mets. Let's be upset at the play and miscues but remember how many of you fans out there were ready to deal Beltran 2 years ago and now you see how many hits he prevented while patrolling CF. Minaya could be blamed to a fault but my biggest beef with him and Bernazard is the AAA Bisons. What kind of junk is being sold to those fans in Buffalo, how can you build a winning, sacrifice for the best of the team mentality when you are fielding a team of past their prime players. Imagine coming to wk in Buffalo, Mets youngsters, and you look at the standings, last place. How do you build a winning Minor League organization if you don't win in Minors? This is why Twins always bring up players with the right attitude and winning attitude that you can just plug into major league team and not miss a beat or have mgr having to continually instruct on basics. Who is doing this for Mets? When was the last time a minor league team for Mets won it all or played in a championship game? This is what prepares you for the big show. If all you did in minors was lose then that is what you expect in majors, IMO. This was a tough game when even the calm Johan was yelling at someone and not too happy with F-Marts fall. Come on he is 20 yrs old and you can play in organized ball for 5 yrs but when you come to majors it is a diff environment and New York is not Buffalo. Wow sorry for going on like this but I think other than the development of prospects in the Mets org, who is setting the winning attitude and the fundamentals that carry over because of repetition to big leagues? Mets are really sorry lacking in this dept. I think a shake up of minor league instructors and bring someone like a Tom Kelley, former Twins mgr, that will instill the right attitude in the up and coming prospects. I agree that the medical opinions offered by the mgmt of this team are a joke esp since they have no med exp and can not be guessing that a player will be back whenever. I see the call for a trade but at what cost? A 3 month rental, Holiday, DeRosa, both of whom maybe together could not get us out of the power shortage we are in. Holiday would be lost at Citi and would not return next yr plus if his stats go down cause of Citi then our compensation for him leaving will be nothing. All I am asking from this team is that they play good def, work the counts, run the bases smartly, hit and run, etc. The problem we have is that you have so many vets that are not regulars playing causing defensive problems on ground balls and fly balls. These guys need to be on bench but then who would play. You cannot trade what good gems, Holt, Mejia, Flores, Gee, for a temp solution cause everyone is upset that our team is ravajed by injuries and only think about this season w/o seeing what our future is going to be. We can, next year start bringing up some of those prospect to AAA, get them seasoned and have a good foundation to partner with Reyes, Wright, Beltran, K-Rod, Santana, Pelfrey,etc. This season sucks so far but only 1/2 of the schedule is over and as we have seen in the past, Rockies, Phillies, Dodgers, Cards in 06, you can make a run come August and Sep. Remember the 69 and 73 Mets and how they finished up to take the division and go on to WS! This division, NL East, is bad this year and Phillies, unless they get a top of rotation starter will not break away from pack and Mets. Let’s be upset at the play and miscues but remember how many of you fans out there were ready to deal Beltran 2 years ago and now you see how many hits he prevented while patrolling CF. Minaya could be blamed to a fault but my biggest beef with him and Bernazard is the AAA Bisons. What kind of junk is being sold to those fans in Buffalo, how can you build a winning, sacrifice for the best of the team mentality when you are fielding a team of past their prime players. Imagine coming to wk in Buffalo, Mets youngsters, and you look at the standings, last place. How do you build a winning Minor League organization if you don’t win in Minors? This is why Twins always bring up players with the right attitude and winning attitude that you can just plug into major league team and not miss a beat or have mgr having to continually instruct on basics. Who is doing this for Mets? When was the last time a minor league team for Mets won it all or played in a championship game? This is what prepares you for the big show. If all you did in minors was lose then that is what you expect in majors, IMO. This was a tough game when even the calm Johan was yelling at someone and not too happy with F-Marts fall. Come on he is 20 yrs old and you can play in organized ball for 5 yrs but when you come to majors it is a diff environment and New York is not Buffalo. Wow sorry for going on like this but I think other than the development of prospects in the Mets org, who is setting the winning attitude and the fundamentals that carry over because of repetition to big leagues? Mets are really sorry lacking in this dept. I think a shake up of minor league instructors and bring someone like a Tom Kelley, former Twins mgr, that will instill the right attitude in the up and coming prospects.

]]> By: Matt http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html#comment-22502 Matt Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:22:11 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=7725#comment-22502 Right now I would be thrilled if the Mets were MEDIOCRE! Because, currently they are AWFUL! Right now I would be thrilled if the Mets were MEDIOCRE! Because, currently they are AWFUL!

]]> By: dyhrdmet http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html#comment-22501 dyhrdmet Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:49:01 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=7725#comment-22501 exactly. and every year, it's been something different about the club. i agree with the rebuilding in 4-5 years, but it's hard to justify that in a new stadium in NY. exactly. and every year, it’s been something different about the club. i agree with the rebuilding in 4-5 years, but it’s hard to justify that in a new stadium in NY.

]]> By: SJB http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html#comment-22500 SJB Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:41:49 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=7725#comment-22500 I agree. Since that moment, they have pulled a 180 in terms of their play. Instead of coming up big in big situations (which they did almost all the time in 2007), they shrink. Over the last two years, I can't think of how many times I've watched them waste opportunities to score runs in late innings, or give up insurance runs late in games. Basically, they can't/don't win a game unless they have a 3 run lead after the 7th. They become the antihesis of clutch. I'm all for allowing the young guys to continue playing, and getting rid of the overpaid "talent". Its not like the guys on the DL were playing at a much higher level than the AAA team we're trotting out now. I see no reason to believe that will change once they are all healthy again. Rebuild the farm system and let's see what we have in 4 or 5 years. I agree. Since that moment, they have pulled a 180 in terms of their play. Instead of coming up big in big situations (which they did almost all the time in 2007), they shrink. Over the last two years, I can’t think of how many times I’ve watched them waste opportunities to score runs in late innings, or give up insurance runs late in games. Basically, they can’t/don’t win a game unless they have a 3 run lead after the 7th. They become the antihesis of clutch.

I’m all for allowing the young guys to continue playing, and getting rid of the overpaid “talent”. Its not like the guys on the DL were playing at a much higher level than the AAA team we’re trotting out now. I see no reason to believe that will change once they are all healthy again. Rebuild the farm system and let’s see what we have in 4 or 5 years.

]]> By: Mas H - SALLY CHIBA Sports http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html#comment-22497 Mas H - SALLY CHIBA Sports Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:28:16 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=7725#comment-22497 steve - I agree with you - however - Minaya isn't going anywhere. He's safe through 2012 thanks to a four year extension he signed. In a way - it's a good thing - because a GM on a shorter leash would be hard pressed not to make a panic trade or empty our farm system for a quick fix. Manuel on the other hand has a shorter leash - it's conceivable he won't be back next season - they could eat his 1.5 Mil salary in 2010 and go another direction. So Jerry's motivation is to try to win as many games as he can - with what he has. I don't agree with playing Tatis as much as he has because frankly he's been awful - but at least Manuel has done a good job of running F-Mart out there - even though he's been struggling mightily. Bottom line is no one could have predicted this many injuries to so many key players to what was a borderline playoff team to begin with. The organization is NOT falling apart - however the team is certainly losing morale - and any change to the mix that's possible needs to be looked into seriously - as long as it doesn't involve key prospects. steve – I agree with you – however – Minaya isn’t going anywhere. He’s safe through 2012 thanks to a four year extension he signed. In a way – it’s a good thing – because a GM on a shorter leash would be hard pressed not to make a panic trade or empty our farm system for a quick fix.
Manuel on the other hand has a shorter leash – it’s conceivable he won’t be back next season – they could eat his 1.5 Mil salary in 2010 and go another direction. So Jerry’s motivation is to try to win as many games as he can – with what he has. I don’t agree with playing Tatis as much as he has because frankly he’s been awful – but at least Manuel has done a good job of running F-Mart out there – even though he’s been struggling mightily.

Bottom line is no one could have predicted this many injuries to so many key players to what was a borderline playoff team to begin with. The organization is NOT falling apart – however the team is certainly losing morale – and any change to the mix that’s possible needs to be looked into seriously – as long as it doesn’t involve key prospects.

]]> By: Mas H - SALLY CHIBA Sports http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html#comment-22495 Mas H - SALLY CHIBA Sports Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:18:03 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=7725#comment-22495 Livan is a known MEDIOCRE quantity - that's something to keep in mind. What we're seeing here is the best that he has left. It's to be appreciated - but also to be kept in perspective. Don't make any long term plans that include Livan Hernandez as part of the Mets rotation. Livan is a known MEDIOCRE quantity – that’s something to keep in mind. What we’re seeing here is the best that he has left. It’s to be appreciated – but also to be kept in perspective. Don’t make any long term plans that include Livan Hernandez as part of the Mets rotation.

]]> By: dyhrdmet http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html#comment-22487 dyhrdmet Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:51:26 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=7725#comment-22487 I've been saying the team is dysfunctional, and I still don't think they've gotten over not scoring after the Endy Chavez catch in Game 7 of the 2006 NLCS, and then the collapse of 2007. but that doesn't explain the dysfunction off the field (things that you cite in this post). I’ve been saying the team is dysfunctional, and I still don’t think they’ve gotten over not scoring after the Endy Chavez catch in Game 7 of the 2006 NLCS, and then the collapse of 2007. but that doesn’t explain the dysfunction off the field (things that you cite in this post).

]]> By: Kevin http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html#comment-22460 Kevin Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:22:36 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=7725#comment-22460 The Mets are not "falling apart"! Ya, they have some major players with some injuries but they will be fine. They are like any family that has some turmoil, its rough for a while but you get stronger because of it and move on! This is a time when someone other then the STAR players needs to step up and speak out, get the team fired up. The players that are getting to play now should be busting their ass to show they are professional baseball players too. Don't let the critics bring you down, show them why your a part of the NEW YORK METS! Once the original starters are back in the line-up this is going to be a deep team!! Keep a positive attitude and hope these guys play hard without giving up! Have a heart guys and do the little things to win! Omar, go get a decent starting pitcher and someone that can grind out hits!!! GO METS!!!! The Mets are not “falling apart”! Ya, they have some major players with some injuries but they will be fine. They are like any family that has some turmoil, its rough for a while but you get stronger because of it and move on! This is a time when someone other then the STAR players needs to step up and speak out, get the team fired up. The players that are getting to play now should be busting their ass to show they are professional baseball players too. Don’t let the critics bring you down, show them why your a part of the NEW YORK METS! Once the original starters are back in the line-up this is going to be a deep team!! Keep a positive attitude and hope these guys play hard without giving up! Have a heart guys and do the little things to win! Omar, go get a decent starting pitcher and someone that can grind out hits!!! GO METS!!!!

]]> By: L.J. Phipps http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html#comment-22457 L.J. Phipps Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:00:20 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=7725#comment-22457 Mets have been slow to react to anything, whether it is miscommunication between the players, the manager, front office, medical staff, or ownership. I have seen some bunk Met teams in my day. I remeber the "worst team money could buy" (which had plenty of stars). I was there in the pre-Cashen days when guys like Pete Falcone & Randy Jones didn't win and guys like Billy Almon & Mike Cubbage didn't hit. This particular team was built to succeed now, and has not lived up to the expectations since 2006. Now I understand the injuries, the rookies, and such. What is tripping me out is the inconsistancies. They play awful in the field, they don't hit well, they don't do fundamentals well, they seem to get punked by contending teams or rivals, they find ways to lose to terrible teams, and lastly won't re-load the roster. AAA is a joke, any talent is at the lower levels, and they don't need to push them along. I don't understand the plan, the design, the direction that this team is going in at all. If your going to try to hang on until the troops come back...make a move. If you think the seasons a wash say so and play the youngsters. I agree from top to bottom this is a mess. Go Mets 2009! Mets have been slow to react to anything, whether it is miscommunication between the players, the manager, front office, medical staff, or ownership. I have seen some bunk Met teams in my day. I remeber the “worst team money could buy” (which had plenty of stars). I was there in the pre-Cashen days when guys like Pete Falcone & Randy Jones didn’t win and guys like Billy Almon & Mike Cubbage didn’t hit. This particular team was built to succeed now, and has not lived up to the expectations since 2006. Now I understand the injuries, the rookies, and such. What is tripping me out is the inconsistancies. They play awful in the field, they don’t hit well, they don’t do fundamentals well, they seem to get punked by contending teams or rivals, they find ways to lose to terrible teams, and lastly won’t re-load the roster. AAA is a joke, any talent is at the lower levels, and they don’t need to push them along. I don’t understand the plan, the design, the direction that this team is going in at all. If your going to try to hang on until the troops come back…make a move. If you think the seasons a wash say so and play the youngsters. I agree from top to bottom this is a mess. Go Mets 2009!

]]> By: D.C. http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html#comment-22454 D.C. Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:56:02 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=7725#comment-22454 The Mets just let this thing happen and now look at a bunch of beer leaguers. These players are not major leaguers. The Mets just let this thing happen and now look at a bunch of beer leaguers. These players are not major leaguers.

]]> By: Link Dump: June 30th, 2009 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html#comment-22453 Link Dump: June 30th, 2009 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:55:47 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=7725#comment-22453 [...] Merized ed Online - Is the Mets Organization Falling Apart? It seems to me that the Mets are in a lot of trouble.  I’m not talking about the fact that the [...] [...] Merized ed Online – Is the Mets Organization Falling Apart? It seems to me that the Mets are in a lot of trouble.  I’m not talking about the fact that the [...]

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html#comment-22444 theonlymaskman Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:56:43 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=7725#comment-22444 Yes, Livan has been one of the few known quantities on the team. This is actually a positive that we can chalk up to Omar. Yes, Livan has been one of the few known quantities on the team. This is actually a positive that we can chalk up to Omar.

]]> By: Matt http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html#comment-22441 Matt Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:52:13 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=7725#comment-22441 Livan in the pen?!?! He has been, without a doubt, the Mets most consistent starter! That includes Santana! These days, you have no idea what Santana is going to give you (either 7 great innings or 7 innings that make the media ask "whats wrong with Johan"), Pelfrey has never been consistent, Nieve had 3 great starts - the only 3 great starts of his 3 year career. As for Livan, you know every game he is going to give the Mets 7 innings and give up 2 or 3 runs per game - look up his last 12 starts. Put Livan in the 'pen?!?! You are clearly a baseball novice. Livan in the pen?!?! He has been, without a doubt, the Mets most consistent starter! That includes Santana! These days, you have no idea what Santana is going to give you (either 7 great innings or 7 innings that make the media ask “whats wrong with Johan”), Pelfrey has never been consistent, Nieve had 3 great starts – the only 3 great starts of his 3 year career. As for Livan, you know every game he is going to give the Mets 7 innings and give up 2 or 3 runs per game – look up his last 12 starts. Put Livan in the ‘pen?!?! You are clearly a baseball novice.

]]> By: theonlymaskman http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html#comment-22439 theonlymaskman Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:47:29 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=7725#comment-22439 Paul, My view is that it's the bats and the defense that's the problem. With better defense, the pitching is automatically better. The holes in the field need to be filled one at a time, some by injured players returning, but some also by trade or better prospects playing. No one says Omar's job is easy, but he has to make headway. If he brings in some bats and the offense is bulked up, the pressure will be off the pitching and they will have a better shot at getting the job done. As far as pitching, Perez will be a big plus if he's sound, but he's shown that mental games contribute to his failures; what will turn that around? According to recent reports, Maine may not return this year. Pelfrey absolutely needs to turn it around. Livan, Nieve, and Redding are all key until we come out of this. They have done good jobs or even better than expected given the circumstances. Meanwhile Omar continues to fiddle around while Rome burns to the ground. Paul,
My view is that it’s the bats and the defense that’s the problem. With better defense, the pitching is automatically better. The holes in the field need to be filled one at a time, some by injured players returning, but some also by trade or better prospects playing. No one says Omar’s job is easy, but he has to make headway. If he brings in some bats and the offense is bulked up, the pressure will be off the pitching and they will have a better shot at getting the job done. As far as pitching, Perez will be a big plus if he’s sound, but he’s shown that mental games contribute to his failures; what will turn that around? According to recent reports, Maine may not return this year. Pelfrey absolutely needs to turn it around. Livan, Nieve, and Redding are all key until we come out of this. They have done good jobs or even better than expected given the circumstances. Meanwhile Omar continues to fiddle around while Rome burns to the ground.

]]> By: Mad Era http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html#comment-22438 Mad Era Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:42:18 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=7725#comment-22438 Couldn't agree more Billy Couldn’t agree more Billy

]]> By: Paul Nassau http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html#comment-22434 Paul Nassau Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:23:17 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=7725#comment-22434 Yes there are serious injury problems. But it always comes down to pitching. To save this year, we need Perez to come back and pitch well; same with Maine; Pelfrey has to turn it around; Nieve has to prove he's good. Put Livan in the pen, and get rid of Redding. I think four of these things have to happen or we're going nowhere, even if we get bats back. Yes there are serious injury problems. But it always comes down to pitching. To save this year, we need Perez to come back and pitch well; same with Maine; Pelfrey has to turn it around; Nieve has to prove he’s good. Put Livan in the pen, and get rid of Redding.
I think four of these things have to happen or we’re going nowhere, even if we get bats back.

]]> By: steve http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html#comment-22432 steve Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:06:35 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=7725#comment-22432 Billy all i meant is that id rather lose watching Murphy,Evans,martinez play then watching Tatis play.I agree maybe they should be in the minors.But if they are here they should play everyday.Atleast till some of the regulars come back.Answer me this Billy Dicknose would you rather see Reed playing center over Martinez,and Tatis playing 1st over Murphy or Evans.If thats what you think is best for the future then i cant wait till your a GM. Billy all i meant is that id rather lose watching Murphy,Evans,martinez play then watching Tatis play.I agree maybe they should be in the minors.But if they are here they should play everyday.Atleast till some of the regulars come back.Answer me this Billy Dicknose would you rather see Reed playing center over Martinez,and Tatis playing 1st over Murphy or Evans.If thats what you think is best for the future then i cant wait till your a GM.

]]> By: Charles http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/is-the-mets-organization-falling-apart.html#comment-22429 Charles Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:34:06 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=7725#comment-22429 Great Article cause it is so true, I think this organization is definetly falling apart. Especially Staff and players Great Article cause it is so true, I think this organization is definetly falling apart. Especially Staff and players

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